On the flip side, this also means users have the option to have a cleaner, less cluttered interface.
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[AUGUST 8, 2023] A new viewer experience that better corresponds to your YouTube watch history preferences
One of the benefits of having YouTube watch history on is that it enables YouTube to provide video recommendations you may be interested in; however, we know some prefer to clear and turn off your YouTube watch history. Starting today, we’re changing how you see recommendations on YouTube, based on your Watch History settings:
Starting today, if you have YouTube watch history off and have no significant prior watch history, features that require watch history to provide video recommendations will be disabled – like your YouTube home feed. This means that starting today, your home feed may look a lot different: you’ll be able to see the search bar and the left-hand guide menu, with no feed of recommended videos thus allowing you to more easily search, browse subscribed channels and explore Topic tabs instead.
We’re rolling these changes out slowly, over the next few months. We are launching this new experience to make it more clear which YouTube features rely on watch history to provide video recommendations and make it more streamlined for those of you who prefer to search rather than browse recommendations. You can change your YouTube watch history settings at any time based on whether you prefer us to provide video recommendations or not.
It has already shown up for me and I don’t really mind. The only thing I do on YouTube now is look up a creator and watch a video I want based on my Newpipe feed.
Yep, basically all the space that was occupied by video thumbanails is now empty with a graphic explaining why. I would attach a screenshot but I no longer seem to have that graphic anymore and it’s back to normal.
This seems very confusing going into the comments, because it doesn’t sound like the feature would actually work without enabling this, and it’s more or less curbing the feature when you don’t have anything to go on.
It sounds like if anything it’s reducing it’s presence until you’ve actually used youtube, and having it enabled is the normal state we’re currently in.
Isn’t this how it already works? I’ve had watch history off for a few years now and the only thing that influences my recommendations are new subscriptions; which I’m totally fine with. (I don’t thumbs up videos)
I might not want to watch everything on my home page but it’s very spot on for me.
Genuinely, what motivation does any professional content creator have for using peertube? It’s just crypto shit and conspiracy theorists and doesn’t pay content creators
The best years of YT before 2017, there was an advanced maker and DIY tech culture revolving around people sharing projects and content just to share it. That died. This all pro CC thing has an up side to some extent, but it also lobotomized YT. Peertube might eventually get to the same kind of utility level, but it needs a lot of time and momentum to get there.
I’m confused. Was anyone really considering that Youtube didn’t keep a log of what every account watched even if their history was off? Being cynical, this seems to only add functionality: removing recommendations.
Sounds like a positive to me. One of the worst things is looking up content for a game or tv/movie show you’re interested in then getting suggested similar content that increases the chance of spoilers due to people who put it in their thumbnail or titles.
So by keeping all my google history’s off I now get the simple search UI I’ve missed since Melissa Meyer left (albeit on Youtube instead of Google search)? Can I sign up get this rolled to my account faster please?
Their algorithm sucks and I’m perfectly happy minimizing my exposure to it, but the whole premise behind video suggestions is that it’s based on what you like. You could try to replicate it with subscription lists instead, but the bottom line is the feature as it is doesn’t really work without knowing what you watch.
They have better information than what I watch: what I click like/dislike on. I’ve watched a number of videos someone recommended that I hate, videos I click on accidentally. Sometimes I don’t watch all the way through, but sometimes I’m not sure until the end that it was a waste of my time.
It was years ago, but my feed got much better when I disabled watch history.
I can definitely agree, I hate YouTube’s recommendation algorithm and would prefer it was set to maybe a 10% algorithmic, 90% random mix. Every time I use it, I avoid clicking on things because I know if I do and forget to delete it from my history, it’s going to be surfacing the same show/IP/creator nonstop for days. It’s so goddamn aggressive.
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It’s okay with me, I don’t rely on personalised algorithm anyway. Find what I need and off I go.
It has already shown up for me and I don’t really mind. The only thing I do on YouTube now is look up a creator and watch a video I want based on my Newpipe feed.
Is the homepage just a search bar or something?
Yep, basically all the space that was occupied by video thumbanails is now empty with a graphic explaining why. I would attach a screenshot but I no longer seem to have that graphic anymore and it’s back to normal.
So stupid.
I’ve switched to watching youtube from my rss feader anyway
Good. Now, extending this logic, if I have ZERO WATCH HISTORY of shorts videos on my account, then… STOP CLOGGING MY SUBSCRIPTION FEED WITH SHORTS!!!
This seems very confusing going into the comments, because it doesn’t sound like the feature would actually work without enabling this, and it’s more or less curbing the feature when you don’t have anything to go on.
It sounds like if anything it’s reducing it’s presence until you’ve actually used youtube, and having it enabled is the normal state we’re currently in.
I don’t get it
This is what happens when you let VCs and capitalists into a corporation. They will screw over there families for just another dollar.
Isn’t this how it already works? I’ve had watch history off for a few years now and the only thing that influences my recommendations are new subscriptions; which I’m totally fine with. (I don’t thumbs up videos)
I might not want to watch everything on my home page but it’s very spot on for me.
So promote peertube more?
Peertube needs a couple (or more) large instances to be anything to start with. Right now it’s no man’s land, sadly.
edit: https://lemmy.ml/post/3038208
I wish, the content needs to get much better. I wish some good YouTube channels would also upload their videos to PeerTube
YT channels who claim to be libre culture should promote PeerTube in every fuckin video.
Genuinely, what motivation does any professional content creator have for using peertube? It’s just crypto shit and conspiracy theorists and doesn’t pay content creators
The best years of YT before 2017, there was an advanced maker and DIY tech culture revolving around people sharing projects and content just to share it. That died. This all pro CC thing has an up side to some extent, but it also lobotomized YT. Peertube might eventually get to the same kind of utility level, but it needs a lot of time and momentum to get there.
I’m confused. Was anyone really considering that Youtube didn’t keep a log of what every account watched even if their history was off? Being cynical, this seems to only add functionality: removing recommendations.
Sounds like a positive to me. One of the worst things is looking up content for a game or tv/movie show you’re interested in then getting suggested similar content that increases the chance of spoilers due to people who put it in their thumbnail or titles.
So by keeping all my google history’s off I now get the simple search UI I’ve missed since Melissa Meyer left (albeit on Youtube instead of Google search)? Can I sign up get this rolled to my account faster please?
To avoid recommendations, I just use invidious.
“Either help us feed the algorithm, or we will make your experience worse”
Their algorithm sucks and I’m perfectly happy minimizing my exposure to it, but the whole premise behind video suggestions is that it’s based on what you like. You could try to replicate it with subscription lists instead, but the bottom line is the feature as it is doesn’t really work without knowing what you watch.
They have better information than what I watch: what I click like/dislike on. I’ve watched a number of videos someone recommended that I hate, videos I click on accidentally. Sometimes I don’t watch all the way through, but sometimes I’m not sure until the end that it was a waste of my time.
It was years ago, but my feed got much better when I disabled watch history.
Is removing the suggestions really making the experience worse though?
Depends.
If you watch mostly technical videos and practical how-to stuff, do you really want to have the home page full of gamers and Mr.Beast wannabes?
From their perspective, yes
Does anyone else like turning history off just so they can see random new stuff?
Sometimes I use Youtube in a private browser just so I can actually be exposed to new information and channels.
Its so annoying that the algorithm is always trying to pigeon hole my feed (facebook and spotify are the same)
I can definitely agree, I hate YouTube’s recommendation algorithm and would prefer it was set to maybe a 10% algorithmic, 90% random mix. Every time I use it, I avoid clicking on things because I know if I do and forget to delete it from my history, it’s going to be surfacing the same show/IP/creator nonstop for days. It’s so goddamn aggressive.