Title is a bit misleading. Starting with 2024 the site will be moving to a new API. The payment is too be able to continue to use the old API a while longer (for software that can’t be changed yet).
Additionally, it’s just a limit on how much you can download. You can still get 10 subtitles a day for free.
Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.
man, they’ve change so much since 2017, where they were giving VIP membership out for free as a Christmas gift. Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore as a Christmas gift to themselves lmao
Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore
No, they’re not.
They are switching from the old API to the new API. You can pay to continue using the old one, use the new one for free (max 5 downloads per day), or pay for less-restricted access to the new API.
I can view opensubtitles.org click on a random title, click download, and a .zip containing an .nfo and .srt downloads no issue.
Presumably that’s the old method; there’s also a ‘download (beta)’ button. It puts up a 20sec timer, then lets me click download and lists how much of my quota (1 of 10, not signed in) I’ve used.
Supposed to remain free, just rate limited to 10/day.
I didn’t see anything about it being free. I also didn’t pick up on whether or not it was moving behind a paywall, just that you could buy a vip subscription for 20% off
I think in the email they sent out they mentioned that each IP would be able to download 5 per 24 hours and “registered users” 10 per 24 hours. Paid members would be restricted to 1,000 per 24 hours.
It’s 15 bucks a year for VIP, if I understood it correctly, then I am of the opinion there is nothing here to get mad about for “regular users”.
Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.
Jesus, reading comprehension is hard to come by eh? How have so many people struggled to actually read this?
They aren’t requiring payment, nor are they requiring you to sign in or create an account.
They are transitioning from an old API to a new one. The new API (and the site itself) is ad supported and rate limited; 5 downloads per day unauthenticated, double that for a free account, or ‘VIP’ accounts have higher limits and no ads.
It’s not authenticated access only, nor is it paid access only.
It doesn’t say any of that information about non-VIP accounts, go read it yourself, and the information you quoted about anonymous accounts is also wrong.
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Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.
Though that’s not fully ‘unauthenticated’, as the above is discussing the use of a developer API key. Though that would be built into whatever app is being used.
Except the screencap I provided shows different information, and as you say it’s not in the OP, so there’s still no reason for that guy being a jackass about others being confused about the situation.
There’s six big ass bold numbered paragraphs detailing the differences between the ‘VIP’ (paid) users and ‘non-VIP’ (free) users.
There’s also a link to the REST API docs where the first thing it details is exactly how authentication is handled. Specifically: an application looking to interface with opensubtitles will have an api key embedded by its developer and without logging in further will have 5 free downloads/day, that can then be expanded by the end user logging in with their (free or VIP) account.
That documentation lists anonymous accounts (not signed in as a specific user) as rated limited to 5/day. That doubles to 10 for signed in (but still free) users and grows further with VIP.
To an extent, but it’s only really relevant to developers. End users don’t see or interact with this at all and aren’t required to provide further info.
For 99% of people, this change makes very little, if any, difference. The way it’s been worded makes it seem like no one gets to use opensubtitles anymore unless they start shelling out cash.
Not really, no. Those keys are more or less equivalent to a browser’s user agent, difference is you don’t choose your own but get them from OpenSubtitles. Motivation probably ranges from “that makes it easy to reject random crawlers” to “we’d like to know the people writing software against our API, or at least have a way to contact them”.
You’ll also be able to find examples of such keys in repositories in the future in case you don’t want to request one of your own but frankly speaking that’s a dick move.
Also, I’ve read through the post several times, and it doesn’t mention anonymous quotas or anything like that. It’s just one long promo for what VIP accounts get over regular accounts.
Further, your quoted quotas are wrong, as the screenshot I provided shows 10 per day for anonymous accounts.
If you’re going to shame people for reading comprehension, you should probably read the details yourself a bit closer.
I can only conclude that everyone upvoting you didn’t bother to read the post either.
IDK, if I was contributing subtitles for an open provider free of charge who shared them free of charge, I’d be glad my subtitles were helping people who needed them. Now that labor has been turned into capital and that rug has been pulled with no back-dated compensation or provisions for free subtitles for hard of hearing or something. It’s a shitty move across the board for everyone but the owner.
I would hardly consider ‘power users’ the ones who download via the API. I used to download them via BSPlayer, where it will prompt you in a nice user friendly interface if you needed subtitles for whatever you were watching. Well, that used the old OpenSubtitles API, and now that it’s gone it’s not gonna work anymore
Textbook shooting yourself in the foot, I really don’t know what they were hoping to gain. You already had a long-lasting reputation in the online community, now you’re a fucking scab
This will just create new competition for them. I have been watching anime for several years and never once had to go through opensubtitles. Most releases now have the subtitles integrated so what is the value they bring to the whole thing?
Edit: I just realized I’m replying the one an only db0, you are the best, cheers!
Anime is a different culture. Most non-anime stuff doesn’t have them embedded (especially the old stuff) and it’s still useful for finding subtitles for other languages
I use it primarily because the embedded subs are often in vubsub which fucking sucks and can’t be played probably on some devices, they also don’t scale probably.
And ancestry dot com. That one still chaps my ass. My mom spent so much time in there adding in her work, and they just fucking locked it one day behind a paywall. Fuck these sites that just take the users hard work and then try and profit off it without announcing that from the get go.
I always assume that. My mom was getting up there in age, and just having a fun time entering in her work. She had no clue that would happen, until it did.
Many pirates will pay for newsgroup access. People also pay for hard drive space, power for servers, hardware, etc. Pirating doesn’t mean people are never paying for anything. That said, I won’t pay for subtitles. I’ll just wait til the community figures something else out.
Yes, I know this already, and the API docs provide different info than the screencap from opensubtitles.com (which the blogpost is about transferring accounts to from opensubtitles.org), so being a douche about anyone not being clear on things from reading any of that, much less reading just the blogpost, was uncalled for.
See, I get when YouTube or some such are asking for some kind of payment, since transcoding and delivering all those large video files is expensive as fuck. Yet, Open subtitles delivers text. Fucking. Text. The rest is done for them for free by the users. No, folks. You ain’t getting any money.
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Any alternatives? I myself havent seen one so I dunno if there is something to migrate to.
https://subscene.com/
much appreciated
Excellent so now they’ll be paying volunteers for their work!
That doesn’t sound very open to me
Title is a bit misleading. Starting with 2024 the site will be moving to a new API. The payment is too be able to continue to use the old API a while longer (for software that can’t be changed yet).
Thank you
Additionally, it’s just a limit on how much you can download. You can still get 10 subtitles a day for free.
Huh… weird. I can’t visit ClosedSubtitles.org.
Subtitles are the easiest material to pirate :) I’m sure they don’t have a copyright either.
Technically subs are copyrighted as they’re usually ripped from official sources. They’re selling copyrighted content
@Moonrise2473 even worse: they’re selling copyrighted content that they have no license for
@iso
Ye, but the problem is the ease of discovery
Yeah probably all integrations are gonna break 😐
I hate them for injecting embedded ads to subs anyways, so hopefully they ruins the platform more so an alternative can emerge.
I was OK with the ads. Just a message before the dialogue and a message after the movie dialogue was over.
But paying for subs? Good luck.
man, they’ve change so much since 2017, where they were giving VIP membership out for free as a Christmas gift. Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore as a Christmas gift to themselves lmao
No, they’re not.
They are switching from the old API to the new API. You can pay to continue using the old one, use the new one for free (max 5 downloads per day), or pay for less-restricted access to the new API.
5 downloads a day is pretty generous as I used them four times in my life for my pirated movies.
Also, they give you 20 downloads a day if you sign up for free
You used to be able to download without signing up.
Edit: Apparently not everyone is being asked to login like me now. I’m not sure if it’s a regional thing or maybe my VPN is triggering something?
You still can, even after these changes get applied. (beginning of 2024)
Really? Every time I visit, it asks me to sign in. Maybe it’s by region or something?
Mind posting a screenshot?
I can view opensubtitles.org click on a random title, click download, and a .zip containing an .nfo and .srt downloads no issue.
Presumably that’s the old method; there’s also a ‘download (beta)’ button. It puts up a 20sec timer, then lets me click download and lists how much of my quota (1 of 10, not signed in) I’ve used.
Supposed to remain free, just rate limited to 10/day.
Omg literally capitalism
…okay? I was just making an observation.
But they offer a new API. Any disadvantages with the new one?
I didn’t see anything about it being free. I also didn’t pick up on whether or not it was moving behind a paywall, just that you could buy a vip subscription for 20% off
I think in the email they sent out they mentioned that each IP would be able to download 5 per 24 hours and “registered users” 10 per 24 hours. Paid members would be restricted to 1,000 per 24 hours.
It’s 15 bucks a year for VIP, if I understood it correctly, then I am of the opinion there is nothing here to get mad about for “regular users”.
I can download ten subtitles just trying to find one good one for a single TV show episode
Imo if they want to be so strict with downloading subtitles, they should raise the quality standards for the subtitles that are submitted.
I believe the captions submitters are doing so for free, no?
Yes that doesn’t mean that opensubtitles can’t take their new found savings and use it to weed out poor quality submissions.
Wikipedia editors do it for free and yet they still maintain a high standard of quality.
Free trash is still trash.
Honestly that’s a fair point too.
https://opensubtitles.stoplight.io/docs/opensubtitles-api/e3750fd63a100-getting-started
I guess this would also affect stremio’s opensubtitles addons
Good thing Stremio has other options… And most media have their own embedded subtitles, which ends up being the best case scenario.
What I don’t recall is if we can login in Open Subtitles 🤔
We can’t and the addon doesn’t seem to be open source, I could modify it to let us login
Let’s hope this gets sorted out in the future, I remember some addon let you out your login credentials maybe not the official one 🤔
Jesus, reading comprehension is hard to come by eh? How have so many people struggled to actually read this?
They aren’t requiring payment, nor are they requiring you to sign in or create an account.
They are transitioning from an old API to a new one. The new API (and the site itself) is ad supported and rate limited; 5 downloads per day unauthenticated, double that for a free account, or ‘VIP’ accounts have higher limits and no ads.
It’s not authenticated access only, nor is it paid access only.
It doesn’t say any of that information about non-VIP accounts, go read it yourself, and the information you quoted about anonymous accounts is also wrong.
edit: I won’t be receiving any replies from this commenter. If anyone wants to say I’m wrong, feel free to provide a screenshot from the blogpost proving it.
The OP doesn’t, but the REST API Docs say:
https://opensubtitles.stoplight.io/docs/opensubtitles-api/e3750fd63a100-getting-started
Though that’s not fully ‘unauthenticated’, as the above is discussing the use of a developer API key. Though that would be built into whatever app is being used.
Except the screencap I provided shows different information, and as you say it’s not in the OP, so there’s still no reason for that guy being a jackass about others being confused about the situation.
Since you deleted the comment I replied to:
There’s six big ass bold numbered paragraphs detailing the differences between the ‘VIP’ (paid) users and ‘non-VIP’ (free) users.
There’s also a link to the REST API docs where the first thing it details is exactly how authentication is handled. Specifically: an application looking to interface with opensubtitles will have an api key embedded by its developer and without logging in further will have 5 free downloads/day, that can then be expanded by the end user logging in with their (free or VIP) account.
That documentation lists anonymous accounts (not signed in as a specific user) as rated limited to 5/day. That doubles to 10 for signed in (but still free) users and grows further with VIP.
You realize the developer key is still authentication, hmmm?
To an extent, but it’s only really relevant to developers. End users don’t see or interact with this at all and aren’t required to provide further info.
For 99% of people, this change makes very little, if any, difference. The way it’s been worded makes it seem like no one gets to use opensubtitles anymore unless they start shelling out cash.
I was very careful to not say it needs payment
Not really, no. Those keys are more or less equivalent to a browser’s user agent, difference is you don’t choose your own but get them from OpenSubtitles. Motivation probably ranges from “that makes it easy to reject random crawlers” to “we’d like to know the people writing software against our API, or at least have a way to contact them”.
You’ll also be able to find examples of such keys in repositories in the future in case you don’t want to request one of your own but frankly speaking that’s a dick move.
“It’s not paid, you can pay by watching ads and get a laughable amount of downloads per day for free!”
Sometimes you have to cycle through many subtitles to find the right one. They don’t even produce them.
In the era of VPN, many users share the same IP too. You can reach the limit before downloading anything.
Then create a free account and it’s no longer limited by ip and you get double the anonymous limit.
There is no need to have an account for that. This is a purely artificial measure.
“They don’t even produce them”
Hosting ain’t free, son.
How many subs do you download at a time??
Juat spread it out or cough up some cash … >_>
I’ve already explained the use-case. Spare me of your “witty” remarks with no value added.
Also, I’ve read through the post several times, and it doesn’t mention anonymous quotas or anything like that. It’s just one long promo for what VIP accounts get over regular accounts.
Further, your quoted quotas are wrong, as the screenshot I provided shows 10 per day for anonymous accounts.
If you’re going to shame people for reading comprehension, you should probably read the details yourself a bit closer.
I can only conclude that everyone upvoting you didn’t bother to read the post either.
Anyway, back to sucking my ass with you.
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I have some learning disabilities, thanks for asking. Prick.
ha, i love how their reasoning tried to not point out the obvious: money
upgrade to vip for a better user experience! (cuz we made the other one shitty on purpose cuz money)
im not faulting them for charging a price for a service, just dont blow smoke up my ass for why youre doin it.
I’m actually faulting them for trying to make money off a crowdsourced service. They didn’t write the damn subtitles.
i didnt know that! fuuuuuck those peoples
Also, wrong fucking audience. The people using this are pirating… what do they think is going to happen when they put a paywall in front 😂
The uploaders often get VIP for free and what will happen is probably just good for them. Leechers aren’t the greatest for torrents nor services.
I pay for it, because it’s cheap and I might as well.
IDK, if I was contributing subtitles for an open provider free of charge who shared them free of charge, I’d be glad my subtitles were helping people who needed them. Now that labor has been turned into capital and that rug has been pulled with no back-dated compensation or provisions for free subtitles for hard of hearing or something. It’s a shitty move across the board for everyone but the owner.
The subs are still free for casual users the ones that need to pay are power users that download through the API.
The API users won’t upload subs or anything, website users are more likely to do that.
I doubt I will switch provider because they seem to be the best by far and I download 1-2 files per movie/series automatically via Bazarr.
If anyone knows any non shit options please tell me.
I would hardly consider ‘power users’ the ones who download via the API. I used to download them via BSPlayer, where it will prompt you in a nice user friendly interface if you needed subtitles for whatever you were watching. Well, that used the old OpenSubtitles API, and now that it’s gone it’s not gonna work anymore
Textbook shooting yourself in the foot, I really don’t know what they were hoping to gain. You already had a long-lasting reputation in the online community, now you’re a fucking scab
They weren’t gaining anything with the free service, now they might get a bit of money from it.
This will just create new competition for them. I have been watching anime for several years and never once had to go through opensubtitles. Most releases now have the subtitles integrated so what is the value they bring to the whole thing?
Edit: I just realized I’m replying the one an only db0, you are the best, cheers!
Anime is a different culture. Most non-anime stuff doesn’t have them embedded (especially the old stuff) and it’s still useful for finding subtitles for other languages
I use it primarily because the embedded subs are often in vubsub which fucking sucks and can’t be played probably on some devices, they also don’t scale probably.
Ah the reddit formula
And ancestry dot com. That one still chaps my ass. My mom spent so much time in there adding in her work, and they just fucking locked it one day behind a paywall. Fuck these sites that just take the users hard work and then try and profit off it without announcing that from the get go.
Always assume that’s the ultimate goal with for-profit services.
I always assume that. My mom was getting up there in age, and just having a fun time entering in her work. She had no clue that would happen, until it did.
If it’s not fully for profit now, it will be later
Why would you pirate a movie and then pay for subtitles? Makes no sense.
And decent pirated movies/TV shows will already come with the subtitles embedded in the video container nowadays, which is great.
True, but quite often the subtitles are in vobsub which sucks.
Agreed, image-based subs are terrible…
even better, pirate a movie, then pay to play the subtitles roulette where you download 30 identical files that differ only on the timing
Many pirates will pay for newsgroup access. People also pay for hard drive space, power for servers, hardware, etc. Pirating doesn’t mean people are never paying for anything. That said, I won’t pay for subtitles. I’ll just wait til the community figures something else out.
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For whatever reason, the opensubtitles.com plugin for Kodi still doesn’t require login and still appears to download whatever I need.
For now.
edit: after checking their “support us” page, it appears it’s because of the “anonymous” tier, limited to 10 dls per day.
Good enough for me.
Try actually reading the article.
Try sucking my ass.
I did, it includes none of the information you posted regarding non-VIP accounts.
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Yes, I know this already, and the API docs provide different info than the screencap from opensubtitles.com (which the blogpost is about transferring accounts to from opensubtitles.org), so being a douche about anyone not being clear on things from reading any of that, much less reading just the blogpost, was uncalled for.
ClosedCaptions.com
See, I get when YouTube or some such are asking for some kind of payment, since transcoding and delivering all those large video files is expensive as fuck. Yet, Open subtitles delivers text. Fucking. Text. The rest is done for them for free by the users. No, folks. You ain’t getting any money.
Wht happens when you have a nated IP?
University dorms certainly never needed subtitles!
My isp does this