Reddit says First Amendment rights protect it from having to disclose users' info.

“Why should I care about their privacy policy?” If Reddit doesn’t store this info then they can’t give it to the film studios.

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just remember to be honest with the police and give your real name, Robert’); DROP TABLE Prisoners;–

Flying Squid
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Naughty Bobby!

Please tell me this never worked for the sake of humanity

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Oh you overestimate the government. Many systems still running on XP. Our government contracts for our company software are still on versions from 13 years ago.

katy ✨
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little bobby tables destroyed his schools records. :(

adONis
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Sure… here’s mine…

🖕.💩.🍆.🍑

I’m so glad I don’t use that shit platform anymore.

Fuckingcapitalists

They’re not just capitalists, they’re oligarchs. They feel entitled to that private information and they don’t care how much “campaign contributions” they have to give to get what they want.

@Chriswild@lemmy.world
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Not to be that guy but capitalists and oligarchs are basically the same thing given enough time. As soon as people have capital they have more power and with more power comes influence.

@Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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Capitalists believe in capitalism. In the US if you bwig bwuissness fails dwaddy gubment has to help you.

I believe under the first amendment in the US Constitution and section 2 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada you cannot silence someone’s freedom of speech/expression just because they discussed something you don’t like. This legal claim is bullshit right from the start due to constitutional protections

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Also, online discussion is not evidence. To wit:

I murdered seven people before breakfast today. I love murdering so much!

Even confessions are not necessarily airtight. For example:

I shot JFK.

Police, when you get here, please knock; the doorbell’s broken.

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That’s not really how that works.

The Constitution only protects you from the government.

Explain to me then how two US Federal District Judges upheld the first amendment during this entire fiasco with film studios

Are you talking about Burstyn v. Wilson (1952)?

Because that was about the state of New York attempting to censor a film. Not sure what case you’re referencing.

@psud@lemmy.world
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Freedom of speech also means that individuals and companies cannot sue you for protected speech, cannot get your private data unless they have a very good reason

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I believe that the following IP ranges

  • 103.231.144.0/24
  • 192.31.196.0/24
  • 216.176.216.0/21
  • 199.248.239.0/24
  • 192.198.30.0/24
  • 69.12.98.42

are engaged in highly suspicious activities

furthermore I can definitely say that I found some dirty pirates hiding at the following ip ranges:

  • 175.45.176.0/24
  • 175.45.177.0/24
  • 175.45.178.0/24
  • 175.45.179.0/24

my research clearly shows proof that those people are not just pirates but also engaged in highly illegal activities such as stealing BILLIONS of dollars and hacking who knows how many servers, and that’s only the crimes one can talk about online.


if you don't get the joke

no, I didn’t share IPs that anyone here would ever have, I guarantee it, if you don’t get the joke look up “bogon routes” and then look up which ASN owns the other set.

It looks more legit than people who use 192.168.0.0/16, 8.8.8.8, 127.0.0.1, or any other things like that because most people don’t know about those.

Also bonus info:

here’s a tip for you, if you’re a sysadmin just go ahead and ban those IP ranges on your machines, if you ever get packets from them it’s an attack 99.999999% of the time (I guess unless you have customers in north korea? in which case only block the first ones and all other bogon routes)

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Thanks for that tip, had no idea about bogon routes

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End state capitalism, the coportocracy / oligarchy using the legal system they control to wield the fascist police forces against the people who don’t behave like they’re told. Meanwhile, taxing what little those people have to pay the salaries of those forces abusing them.

I mean, the studios are doing it right and following SOP.

They wrote the DCMA, used the congress they bought to pass it, the president the bought to sign it into law, and now will use the FBI and local militarized police to impose their will by force.

Constituon was an obstacle they did away with when they bought the Supreme Court.

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Then provide better streaming options including price and service. Piracy will always win whether they like it or not.

I’m surprised Netflix is still around at their price rate and the way they keep canceling shows. I jumped on the BF deal for Peacock, because I wasn’t gonna pay the full price.

I only have Peacock for WWE, so everything is a bonus. But not everybody is gonna pay for 7 services monthly or yearly. Either put it all under one service or understand some of us are gonna pirate.

Amazon prime is gonna start having ads this month, so people are gonna have to pay more for ad free on top of prime membership or pirate to avoid ads. Before we know, they’ll start putting ads in games while they load.

@skeezix@lemmy.world
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WWE? Bubba, it may be cheaper to simply attend some local monster truck rallies or rodeos.

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Well I’m talking about the WWE monthly PPVs. But I got the $20/yr black Friday deal and then $6/mo no ads.

@Teknikal@lemm.ee
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I’ve noticed reddit has recently started shadowbanning my posts when I have a vpn active so I’d say at this point it’s probably completely unsafe to discuss anything on.

@13617@lemmy.world
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Absolutely. That and the recent vpn blocking changes has made using reddit absolutely unbearable.

@_sideffect@lemmy.world
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Spez will happily give it if it’ll increase his future IPO

@CAVOK@lemmy.world
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PSA that i2p exists and supports anonymous Torrents.

Have a look at !i2p@lemmy.world

@wowwoweowza@lemmy.ml
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Is it possible a film studio, or legal agency, could set up a Lemmy Instance and then capture all our IPs?

katy ✨
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unless you visit the instance yourself or activitypub starts including user ips

Ademir
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AP protocol doesn’t propagate your IP

BreakDecks
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They would just have to start DMing us meme images hosted on a server they control, and they’d get a list of IPs. All we’d have to do is look.

Fwiw, this would work on Reddit too.

@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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Unless anyone shared the in image link anywhere else on the internet. “Judge, they looked at this publicly accessible image” is hardly evidence

BreakDecks
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Yeah, but do you publicly share every spam DM image that is shared with you? Would you even know if this happened, so you could react?

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“Judge, they looked at this publicly accessible image” is hardly evidence

Sometimes you don’t have to win a court case legally, to win a court case. Just the harassment of the lawsuit is enough.

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“Judge, they looked at this publicly accessible image” is hardly evidence

Sometimes you don’t have to win a court case legally, to win a court case. Just the harassment of the lawsuit is enough.

That’s not a lawsuit they would even attempt, as it would get immediately thrown out.

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That’s not a lawsuit they would even attempt, as it would get immediately thrown out.

People use the threat of lawsuit as an intimidation tactic all the time.

@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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So they would send random DMs with pictures, to threaten lawsuits they couldn’t enforce, to achieve what exactly?

BreakDecks
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They know what torrents people download by IP.

anyone can figure that out: https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/

Associating IPs with social media accounts is a step towards identifying people so they can threaten them and force them into settlements.

It’s a numbers game for the lawyers. They want as much data as they can get to identify the largest number of people so they can demand an out-of-court settlement.

The “DMing pictures” part is just an example of how they could gather that kind of data from a social network like Lemmy that can’t be so easily subpoenaed, and allows image hotlinking. I don’t have any evidence that they are doing this (yet), I just know that it would work.

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So they would send random DMs with pictures, to threaten lawsuits they couldn’t enforce, to achieve what exactly?

They wouldn’t have to send random DM’s if they got the IP addresses more directly, as the article describes.

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Yup. About 7 years ago I used to darkweb pretty hard in the drug scene (I haven’t in years so have at it, Mr. FBI).

Anyway I used Reddit subs a lot for info on new markets and onions, reliable sellers, and news on exit scams etc, but I only lurked - never commented. Anyone with a brain in their head knew they were honeypots.

@wowwoweowza@lemmy.ml
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Hope I didn’t fall for Any honeypots. I sometimes wonder about posts in Piracy communities.

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Only if you directly use their instance.

Absolutely. One of the biggest child porn groups is an FBI front for this purpose. I’d google the subject for a link but umm…no

@wowwoweowza@lemmy.ml
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So basically the only thing protecting our anonymity is the relative unpopularity of Lemmy?

@ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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The internet is at it’s worst when it’s popular

The Federation of lemmy/mastodon instances is the worst part about it

@whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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To expand on this. If you are talking about anything online it is not private. That doesn’t matter if it’s in a WhatsApp chat, a telegram chat, a Lemmy post, a Facebook feed, etc. as soon as it hits a computer if someone wants to see it they will. There’s just hurdles to get it.

If you want anonymity stop using computers.

Ain’t this the truth.

Here’s story about a serial killer being caught by a floppy drive’s meta data.

https://www.grunge.com/332018/heres-how-the-btk-killer-was-finally-caught/

Detectives were able to run relatively simple tests to determine that the file had last been saved by a user named “Dennis,” and it had been printed using one of the printers at the nearby Christ Lutheran Church.

Maybe the article is badly worded, but it seems like they got metadata from the file, not the floppy disk itself.

It was either the FAT file or the file itself. The case is famous.

@Facebones@reddthat.com
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Few things more fun than telling people who harp about vaccines being tracking chips that if they’re worried about tracking they should ditch their smartphone, and watching them rage.

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You mean the always-on GPS-enabled internet-connected microphone and camera which is also likely Bluetooth and NFC beaconing and contains all of my most personal data including my name, contacts, unencrypted chats facilitated by major cell phone carriers, photos, emails, and other personal files which are also likely synced with a cloud service operated by major multi-national corporations, and also stores biometric data such as facial recognition, fingerprints, time spent sleeping, and even heart rate and number of steps taken assuming you have “fitness” features enabled?

With those last couple items, these massive companies that regularly share data with law enforcement are literally tracking your every step and nearly every beat of your heart.

Well don’t worry about that, I’ve got Express VPN.

@MxM111@lemmy.world
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Privacy and anonymity are not the same thing.

@whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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You’re not anonymous online either FYI.

@MxM111@lemmy.world
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Depends what and how you do it. VPN gives some level of anonymity. TOR even more so. These give you probably greater anonymity than anything else you have in offline live.

Tell me you know nothing about computers without telling me you know nothing about computers.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

@vsh@lemm.ee
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Says the guy licensing his own comments on social media.

Tell me you know nothing about copyright without telling me you know nothing about copyright.

😂 at least I’m not pretending I know anything about copyright

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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I wanted to let you know that you’re honesty with this comment made me chuckle.

@etrotta@lemmy.eco.br
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I’m not sure that this is how it works in practice, but ideally: Unless you are registered in their stance / are browsing directly in their website, your client shouldn’t be making any direct requisitions to their instance, so there is nothing they can infer your IP from. (Everything you interact with is comes directly your instance - the only thing that interacts with other instances is the server) That said, it’s possible for some links to direct to the original stance, in which case your client will have to make requests directly to the original instance hosting the content… looking around in this page a bit, it looks like the Community images (banner, icon etc.) are linking directly to the original instance, so I guess that’s a little bit of a problem - but just that shouldn’t be enough information for them to connect the dots between the IP address fetching the image and the account you’re using to browse

@spader312@lemmy.world
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Don’t images also link back to the original instance?

I think not as the only instance that has your ip is the one you are registered on.

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One would hope…

I for one want to be in compliance. Here is my IP, I checked it in Microsoft windows so it is correct. 192.168.0.1

Text me at that IP if I need to pay a fine or if I need to go to my local jail. Thanks guys, I’m sorry I pirated and I will re upload all the movie films that I downloaded to try to make this right.

upload all the movie films that I downloaded to try to make this right.

😂

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127.0.0.1 is where it’s at … Do you even IP bro?

::1 for the IPv6 enjoyers

@bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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There are literally dozens of you!

@grue@lemmy.world
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spoiler

Get it? It’s cause Class A networks are bigger and therefore more “pro” than Class C ones.

@AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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localhost gang

@Haagel@lemmings.world
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Holy shit! My IP is 192.168.1.1!

What are the odds!?

Neighbours awwww

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They were neighbors!

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hunter2

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All I see is 192.168.0.2

Nougat
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172.16.0.0/16 represent

@HeChomk@lemmy.world
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Y’all be trippin. I put a mask on my ip to hide it’s true identity. The mask is just 255.255.255.0

No one will ever know the real ip.

Omg, you are probably my neighbor!

@JCreazy@midwest.social
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After reading the article, it looks like the studios want the IPs to show that Frontier is allowing piracy on their ISP and they claim they don’t want it for financial compensation.

This is true.

What I also gathered from the article (for further context) is that these are the same lawyers who tried to the other 2 cases of piracy on reddit. This time the argument is that it is not a violation of the first amendment right because they want the data to go after the ISP

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