I remember having a somewhat difficult transition from a keyboard editor to Word, Notepad, etc in the 90s. I didn’t use EMACS but a similar one called EDT. I had used it so much I never thought about which keys to press, it was more like playing the piano - my fingers knew how to do what my brain wanted. Moving a mouse around and watching the cursor are additional mental activities you don’t need with keystroke editors. This is one reason many Linux users are still hardcore command-line users. They get stuff done a lot faster.
Depends on the operation. There are some things, especially interacting with remote servers, that can be done with a GUI tool. For example, exploring a kubernetws cluster. Sure, you could enter 5 different commands to get the info you want, or you can use a GUI app like OpenLens that is constantly sending dozens of commands in a polling loop to display all kinds of info on one view.
I remember my school had no idea how you should set up computers before letting first graders use them so we were all constantly dragging all the applications into the trash can to hear the fun noise and see the little puff of dust.
They also all had a copy of Type to Learn Jr installed, which we were strictly forbidden from opening, and every time we were using the computers multiple people would get in trouble for playing it. A few years ago I got a couple of cheap iBook G3 laptops and the first thing I did was install Type to Learn Jr and finally play it all the way through
Mine had a bunch of iMac g3s, eMacs came toward grade 8.
Games weren’t explicitly forbidden, just needed to finish work first, new Cross Country Canada, math circus and Oregon trail were the games I recall the most of. There was this one game though I can’t recall the name of but the concept was interesting, you played as a time travelling velociraptor and had to save dinosaur eggs from extinction, was like a 3rd person shooter, I have no idea why that was on school computers
In the distant year of 4122, a dinosaur species, Nanosaurs, rule the Earth. Their civilization originated from a group of human scientists who experimented with genetic engineering. Their experimentation led them to resurrect the extinct dinosaur species; however, their victory was short-lived, as a disastrous plague brought the end of their civilization itself. The few dinosaurs resurrected were lent an unusual amount of intelligence from their human creators, leaving them to expand on their growing civilization. However, as the Nanosaurs were the only species on Earth, inbreeding was the only possible choice of reproduction. This method largely affected the intelligence of the various offspring, and slowly began to pose a threat to their once-intelligent society.
The Nanosaur government offers a quest that involves time traveling into the year 65 million BC, where the five eggs of ancient dinosaur species must be retrieved and placed in a time portal leading to the present year. Their high-ranking agent, a brown Deinonychus Nanosaur, is chosen to participate in this mission. On the day of her mission, she is teleported to the past via a time machine in a Nanosaur laboratory.
Apple had a strong relationship with Pangea at the time, who developed that game. From 1999-2006, most Macs shipped with some sort of game (usually Bugdom). Reimaging a Mac didn’t really exist at the time, most of the time they were just rolled out to classrooms as is with a few extra programs installed.
My 2006 Mac Mini had Marble Blast Gold from Garage Games, that was the last one I was aware of.
I’m sure emacs is great but I learned about vim and neovim first so it’s kind of a done deal already, not a lot of us Linux users are open source enthusiasts with so much time that we can noodle in all different flavors of text editors.
vim works great for me shrug, if emacs works great for you then awesome
When I started with Linux, I started with vim because the tutorials I was working off used vi and vim. Once I started with vim and learned the commands, I wasn’t going to switch to something else… there’s a joke somewhere in there about not knowing how to exit… but I’m not making it.
If I was going to write documentation now for a Linux newbie, I’d probably pick nano to start with.
I started with nano and I hated it, I didn’t understand what anything meant in the bottom bar, like what is ^X. Unironically vim was easier to understand. I know what it is now but as a new user I didn’t like using it.
I’m a little fresher on the block than you are, we had a CRT when I was little but that thing is long gone for LEDs and OLEDs about a million moves ago.
Will I go scour the web for someone’s junk however to breathe life into it again? Fuck yeah that sounds fun
IIRC somebody said the eMac computers like this were actually really good for their age. Either the iMac shaped ones like that, or the ones with the half-sphere foot for a base.
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Remember when monitors were so fat you could hide a whole computer inside one?
my computer lives inside my keyboard, next to the keyboard’s computer
Apple’s still doing it.
Running emacs on emacs. Inception!
source: @hfaust@shitposter.world
This guy emacs
GNU intensifies
I suspect the world would collapse into some kind of singularity if someone ever ran vim on an emac.
https://gist.github.com/dbrady/991366
Maybe it has to be vim in emacs on an emac
I just got the joke.
dbrady, now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time
I remember having a somewhat difficult transition from a keyboard editor to Word, Notepad, etc in the 90s. I didn’t use EMACS but a similar one called EDT. I had used it so much I never thought about which keys to press, it was more like playing the piano - my fingers knew how to do what my brain wanted. Moving a mouse around and watching the cursor are additional mental activities you don’t need with keystroke editors. This is one reason many Linux users are still hardcore command-line users. They get stuff done a lot faster.
Depends on the operation. There are some things, especially interacting with remote servers, that can be done with a GUI tool. For example, exploring a kubernetws cluster. Sure, you could enter 5 different commands to get the info you want, or you can use a GUI app like OpenLens that is constantly sending dozens of commands in a polling loop to display all kinds of info on one view.
It’s a text editor you customise by programming it. Why do you think that’s appealing?
I think you missed the joke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMac
This stupid antique computer is the reason my iOS keyboard autocorrects “emacs” to “eMacs”
there’s something so funny about them both being apple products, but the offending party getting the disrespect of “this stupid antique computer”
Looks like a US model. Never heard of it.
we had them in school in europe in like 2003.
Ah, school, 2003, that explains a lot.
i mean they came out in 2002 and were for schools, so yes.
I definitely wasn’t in school in 2002.
I think we found the guy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcL86UpqZc
I’ve been meaning to buy one of those forever, we had them in elementary school and they were fun
It was my first Mac and first computer that was just mine.
Boy I pushed that thing to the limits. Ended up frying the video card. While I loved it, it was just so so weak.
I remember my school had no idea how you should set up computers before letting first graders use them so we were all constantly dragging all the applications into the trash can to hear the fun noise and see the little puff of dust.
They also all had a copy of Type to Learn Jr installed, which we were strictly forbidden from opening, and every time we were using the computers multiple people would get in trouble for playing it. A few years ago I got a couple of cheap iBook G3 laptops and the first thing I did was install Type to Learn Jr and finally play it all the way through
Was their goal to make it feel forbidden so the rebellious kids would ‘secretly’ learn typing?
Mine had a bunch of iMac g3s, eMacs came toward grade 8.
Games weren’t explicitly forbidden, just needed to finish work first, new Cross Country Canada, math circus and Oregon trail were the games I recall the most of. There was this one game though I can’t recall the name of but the concept was interesting, you played as a time travelling velociraptor and had to save dinosaur eggs from extinction, was like a 3rd person shooter, I have no idea why that was on school computers
Edit: was Nanosaur
Apple had a strong relationship with Pangea at the time, who developed that game. From 1999-2006, most Macs shipped with some sort of game (usually Bugdom). Reimaging a Mac didn’t really exist at the time, most of the time they were just rolled out to classrooms as is with a few extra programs installed.
My 2006 Mac Mini had Marble Blast Gold from Garage Games, that was the last one I was aware of.
Thanks for that, Bugdom also looks familiar!
I’m sure emacs is great but I learned about vim and neovim first so it’s kind of a done deal already, not a lot of us Linux users are open source enthusiasts with so much time that we can noodle in all different flavors of text editors.
vim works great for me shrug, if emacs works great for you then awesome
Vim is well emulated in Emacs, but it really shouldn’t be thought of in the same category.
Emacs is more of an unbelivably editable lisp system to streamline your computing that happens to have a decent default editor.
When I started with Linux, I started with vim because the tutorials I was working off used vi and vim. Once I started with vim and learned the commands, I wasn’t going to switch to something else… there’s a joke somewhere in there about not knowing how to exit… but I’m not making it.
If I was going to write documentation now for a Linux newbie, I’d probably pick nano to start with.
I started with nano and I hated it, I didn’t understand what anything meant in the bottom bar, like what is ^X. Unironically vim was easier to understand. I know what it is now but as a new user I didn’t like using it.
Micro is Nano but the commands make sense. It’s so nice.
It even prompts you for a sudo password when you try to save but don’t have permission.
Because the mouse is useless with only one button so you have to use the keyboard.
Ctrl + click!
that won’t help on an eMac, you need ⌘+click.
I think it’s ctrl click for right click. Command click is for selecting multiple files.
I don’t recall the eMac keyboard having a CTRL key.
It did https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/the-history-of-the-mac-keyboard/
do folks do pc builds inside of old CRT cases? that seems like a niche that should exist.
You’ve given me a great idea
babe i’ve given BOTH of us a great idea. i’ve still got my very first big ass CRT. i’d love to give it life again.
bonus points if you reuse the old DVI hookup as a video out. TIL regular-ass DVI can handle 1920x1200 @ 60hz!
I’m a little fresher on the block than you are, we had a CRT when I was little but that thing is long gone for LEDs and OLEDs about a million moves ago.
Will I go scour the web for someone’s junk however to breathe life into it again? Fuck yeah that sounds fun
try thrifting if that’s an option near you!
Because it was the last Mac that could boot into MacOS 9. And we all know what that means…
Not a mac guy but this was my favorite era.
The eMac was one of the best of the era IMO
IIRC somebody said the eMac computers like this were actually really good for their age. Either the iMac shaped ones like that, or the ones with the half-sphere foot for a base.
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