Since May, YouTube has ramped up its block of ad blockers and the company has now fully launched this policy worldwide...

cross-posted from: https://lemdro.id/post/2787773 (!google@lemdro.id)

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No it’s not.

I mean, maybe it’s trying, I don’t know, but I’m not even trying to keep ublock origin up to date (maybe it updates itself in the background?) and I haven’t noticed any difference (or ads) other than the normal progressive enshittification of both platform and channels, and I’m pretty certain I live in the world… EDIT: And before anyone asks, I am logged in, I mostly use YouTube through the subscriptions page, so being logged in doesn’t seem to be causing any problems for me either.

Also I’ve had zero problems with Youtube ad blocking using Brave browser.

hiddengoat
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Fully blocking only if you aren’t using uBlock Origin, which you just have to update the filters on.

Complete waste of effort.

Alphabet needs to be broken up.

Don’t know, not using ublock origin. I use enhancer for YouTube on Firefox, and still not seeing any pop up.

Tho I have it set to allow ads for subscribed channels. Tho the setting seems bugged as a feature where most video ads get blocked, but some of them still run sometimes at the start of the video. The square adds on the side aren’t blocked either, but they are not a hindrance.

hiddengoat
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“I have my ad blocker set to not block ads and Google isn’t complaining about me blocking ads.”

rilly.

HuddaBudda
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This effort I don’t believe was targeting people like most of what you would find here.

This ad-block ban, was mostly targeted at people who didn’t know what an ad-blocker was and didn’t want to have to deal with having to get banned.

If Alphabet(google) is actually serious about blocking ad-blockers, I would be surprised. Mostly because Microsoft has had more experience with this, also has billions, and even they quit.

hiddengoat
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IF? Are you paying attention to what’s going on with Chrome?

Google is introducing a bullshit system that will ultimately let them control what the browser can and can’t display.
They are working to eliminate ad blockers entirely.

Their entire fucking goal is to lock down YOUR FUCKING BROWSER so they can send you any ads they want, at any time they want, without them even having to be served through a website. They also want to push their “security” bullshit so that if you’re using a non-Chrome browser you get excluded from the internet.

And right now the overwhelming majority of browsers are Chrome based.

The EU will likely not let this happen, but the US has no balls when it comes to carving up shitbags these days.

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It’s doing it on ublock origin again; are there updates * since Saturday?

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hiddengoat
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At points they’ve updated multiple times per day.

Maeve
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Meh that was a dumb question. My nephew is in town so that’s where my head is.

Eta: oops! Thank you!

hiddengoat
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Nah, not dumb at all. YouTube’s being super dicks about it but the uBlock Origin team seems to only be about half a tick behind with getting updates out.

Maeve
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Thank you for being so gentle with me.

@MJBrune@beehaw.org
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Until they start banning accounts for violating the tos. Then people with 20 years of emails are going to be lost without them.

hiddengoat
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That will absolutely include government accounts.

Google would get instagibbed.

@MJBrune@beehaw.org
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I don’t believe that it really would have to. Any official government accounts likely are tied to the government Google organization. If you are talking about private accounts then Google can use the horde of data they have to tie government officials to private accounts.

Overall though, this is also following the belief that anyone in the government is smart enough to use ad blockers which I have my doubts. I don’t think any real high up government official uses ad block.

hiddengoat
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Yes, shithead, the IT professionals tasked with setting up government computers do in fact know how to install a fucking browser extension.

@MJBrune@beehaw.org
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Hey bad actor, stop name-calling if you want to have a conversation. There are a lot of limitations to the computers that government officials work on and what I said was clearly in jest. Most IT departments do not put in ad block on the preinstalled browsers in my experience and furthermore will block you with group policies from doing much with your computer.

Name-calling is NOT nice. Please, remember to be(e) nice at Beehaw.

hiddengoat
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For that pun you can fucking bee-low me.

The Doctor
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They probably don’t.

If you’re talking about when they’re in the office and on the job, chances are they’re not using Chrome at all, they’re using IE or Edge (depending on the Windows version deployed these days), with group policy pushed out from the domain that prevents installing any additional software (note: this doesn’t prevent the use of portable installs of software, uncompressed to their Documents/ subdirectory or something) (but most of those folks don’t know anything about portable software).

There is also a very good chance that they’re still blocking Youtube on NIPR for bandwidth management purposes.

I’ve no idea if US .govs are using Google Orgs for anything these days. When I was still a Beltway Bandit it was all Exchange with Outlook, all the time.

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Fully blocking only if you aren’t using uBlock Origin

Not even that, I use Adblock Plus and have no trouble accessing Youtube and watching videos. Didn’t even need to update any filters, it just keeps working as-is.

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i just kept pushing the x in the top right corner for a few weeks, then it gave me the 3-2-1 countdown, and then finally it blocked me from viewing any more videos until i disabled my ad blocker. i disabled uBlock origin, refreshed, re-enabled it again. no more ads since i did that.

Pamasich
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around the world

fully blocking ad blockers

One of those two has to be false, because I’m still not seeing any anti-adblocker measures on my end.

@Deemo@bookwormstory.social
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Only time I every encountered the popup was when I used orion with its built in adblocker. And even then I gat one warning (no metion of 3 strike policy). Only change now is the added a 3 second timer to the dismiss button.

Edit: Ublock origen and firefox as usual no issue

Chariotwheel
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Silence, Marsian scum, we finally got you.

The Doctor
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Firefox with uBlock Origin and a Pi-Hole on my home network. When I started getting the “you’re using an adblocker” popups I used uBO to select and block those, also. That was maybe two weeks ago.

On my work laptop (which is unfortunately remotely managed), Chrome with uBO and a pick-and-blocked filter for the same popup. I still have my background noise for working.

I also have a Piped install that does a pretty nice job as a front-end.

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Still works fine here (Switzerland) with Vivaldi’s built-in ad blocker and Pi-Hole.

hmmm hadnt noticed. must be a you problem. heh

PEBKAC

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I have seen it just once so far. However, this isn’t the end. YouTube is rolling this out gradually - perhaps to avoid a massive backlash. I’m sure that even uBO won’t be good enough soon.

originalucifer
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i was being cheeky, but seriously, ive moved on from youtube. i dont need the content that bad, and i am comfortable drawing a line in the sand. so it does not matter what they do it does not affect me.

So fully blocking ad blockers other than the most popular one? I guess we should be glad they weren’t this bad at programming 18 years ago when they launched Youtube…

Pamasich
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I’m not using the most popular one (I use Adblock Plus, which iirc most people hate) and I can also freely use Youtube with it turned on. So it’s not about ublock.

I don’t hate ABP, it used to be the main one everyone used, including me. Problem is it stopped working well at some point so we all switched to uBlock Origin. I’m glad ABP is working well again, but I’ll keep recommending uBlock Origin as long as it keeps working.

Next step: only available on chrome

Anti-trust suit in 3…2…1…

“Best I can do is a small fine. Also, the fine is tax deductible.” - Federal Government, 2023.

Normally I’d be on the same page, but the Biden admin has genuinely made the biggest antitrust moves in the last 30 years.

Biggest moves in which direction? They let MS buy Activision…

the biggest antitrust moves in the last 30 years.

That’s a pretty low bar to clear

The Doctor
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At least someone’s actually bothering.

Not exactly a high bar. I’d like to see some of these moves go somewhere, but I don’t have high hopes.

Rikj000
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So kind of Google, always putting out new fun challenges to encourage people to get their hands dirty with hacking their crap :)

@PenguinTD@lemmy.ca
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Lol, Microsoft played that game so long and just give up and just get paid by pressure/bundle sale to the business. Let’s see how long Google can keep up with the milking game.

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Ublock origin on firefox. Never forced an update, never did any fiddling with block lists. Never got a single warning or notification, still works perfectly. Huh.

I’m also using ublock on Firefox, I had plenty of notifications over the past two weeks, I have even an Invidious redirect set up, though admittedly ublock is winning RIGHT NOW.

@Devi@beehaw.org
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I was told to install it fresh and turn off any updates, that seems to work

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I did get the splash notification about adblockers a few times ago on a linux garuda system with firefox and ublock, but after popping up on two videos it was gone.

Could just be luck of the draw. I’m using the same setup and sometimes I get it, sometimes I don’t

I’m in the same boat whether on Windows, macOS, Linux or Android. But my sister, in the same household, also using uBO on FF, has been getting the message constantly

I get them every now and then, but refreshing the page fixes it every time. I’m not logged in to a Google account and my browser is set to clear cookies for all but a few domains on restart, so maybe that’s contributing? Don’t restart often though.

My sister found that it outright blocks her. She is signed in.

^But she also found that the player loads a split second before the message so if you full screen the player before the message you’re good and can keep on watching away with no ads…^

Ditto, but had to manually update a few times. You need to boost your YouTube addiction!

The two worst things that ever happened to YouTube were monetized content and Google buying it. It hasn’t even been very fun to browse YouTube since like 2010.

@Pantherina@feddit.de
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Very true. In germany we had “Ytitty”, a group of young guys doing music parodies and comedy stuff. They went more and more professional and less funny, not realizing thats not how comedy works.

30M Views

LOL

Remember YouTube before people started doing ad-like thumbnails, and radio voices?

Like …the top channels were normal people.

I miss that so much!

Use DeArrow and/or ignore the ““algorithm”” fed feeds.

The Doctor
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Piped is good for that, too.

ArxCyberwolf
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Someone like FRED was on top at one point. Which is insane looking back on it. All it took was running around being obnoxious with a high pitched voice to be the largest channel on YouTube back then.

It’s all good just make sure you have an up-to-date ublock-based extension: https://reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/17j6ygs/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_29_2023_mega/

As of writing this Adblock Plus isn’t working with Youtube but no reason you should be using that over ublock origin anyways.

The Doctor
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I’m still waiting for Google to ban uBlock Origin from the Chrome addon store.

@drwho @xoggy yeah eh. Maybe it has such a unique footprint it just opens up more tracking opportunities through fingerprinting. 🙃

The Doctor
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I think they just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

Enitoni
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All the more reason to switch to Firefox!

@CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
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I have Ad Guard installed and still use UBlock Origin for its features.

unix_joe
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I got the popup all the time for a few weeks with Firefox and uBlock Origin. As a YouTube Premium subscriber. The paid service. The whole reason they were pushing back on ad blockers to begin with.

Fuck these guys, I let the subscription lapse.

Stepos Venzny
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