By now, I’m sure you’ve heard about the Reddit protests and blackouts but what exactly is going on with Reddit? Why are people protesting and why did the pro...
A video about the effectiveness of the Reddit protest
All the worthwhile content creators will (or already have) move on and it’ll be even more of AI generated content circlejerk than it already is. No one should feel sorry for lurkers being lazy.
The only issue with the dynamic is that Redditors were too fixated with their position as “moderator” and were willing to acquiesce just to keep it. If they simply refused the free labor they’re giving a corporation who’s seeking profit by near any cost, they’d have had impact.
I´m genuienely baffled why the mods of those protesting subs didn´t, at least as a backup plan, also created an alternative community on here right away. Sure, in the beginning, they might have hoped the protests could work. But even after the first two days blackuot, it was pretty clear that Reddit didn´t care at all. So why even fight this fight and not just go “Well, have fun without us Reddit. And here´s a tutorial on how to join us over at lemmy.”
EDIT: I know some did. r/piracy I believe were pretty open about packing up and moving to lemmy. And as the days go by, more and more “stuff” I used Reddit for also pops up on some lemmy server or another. Still, an at least fairly organized move would have been nice.
i find that the lack of community videos really holds me back from using lemmy as a primary website, but i do understand that video hosting is expensive, just kinda sucks
I’m not big on video content so that doesn’t bother me at all, but I could see how that might hold some people back if they prefer that. Funnily enough, I often won’t click a link if I see it goes to a video instead of an article.
That being said PeerTube is in the works, still a ways to go but it’s comin’
The best use of peertube might actually be integration with the rest of the fediverse - post from peertube buttons might actually make sense
It’s not monetizable so it’s not worth it for big content creators, but it’s absolutely perfect for posting a quick video for sharing via mastodon, kbin or lemmy
I agree! That seems like a great thing to add to the Fediverse road map. There are other more pressing issues that need to be worked on first but I’d love to see that level of integration eventually.
Path of least resistance is usually best in these cases, and frankly, it’s nicer here. I have been waiting for Lemmy to pick up after trying other fediverse applications and there is no way I am going back for any application. Now we just need YT to implode.
If this reddit change did not occurred, I probably never had tried Lemmy (even if I’m in OSS world for 20+ years now).
First thought is that I don’t think communities going black or mods leaving reddit will do anything to reddit, it’s so big and alternative are somehow a niche for geek that they will not loose most of their user base. For mods they’ll find out some way …
On the other hand, I don’t care, I’m happy here on the fediverse, I participated more discussion here in 1 month than in years on reddit. I had bad experience on my first posts on reddit (probably not interesting enough for some and then downvoted a lot), and I think that I just always thought if my post will be appreciated or not and so and finally just didn’t post.
I don’t have this feeling here.
I also had a terrible first experience posting on Reddit, which turned me off from activity submitting any content and only commenting rarely. I mostly lurked and voted, which I still thought of as participating in the community. But in my short time here (Kbin for me), I see the entire userbase as activity welcoming and generally nicer! Just looking at the voting scores, it seems that downvots are hardly used at all! Maybe it’s a good thing we’re separating from the common audience that was quick to turn toxic and become combative for the fun of it.
I haven’t gone back since the blackout, I get my content here and some other bookmarks I’d forgotten about.
Turns out a whole bunch of us were sick of reddit anyway and were eagerly awaiting a new place to go. I’d have never heard of the Fediverse if reddit hadn’t been dicks about API pricing. I knew as soon as I came here and started exploring that this was the way to go; reddit is old news, it’s been around for 18 years, that’s forever in internet time. It’s time to move onto the next thing and the idea of hundreds (thousands!) of federated servers talking and sharing content across platforms is very exciting to me.
Go easy on people. It’s hard to change, and something like lemmy can be intimidating for people to get on board with. That’s ignoring the fact that even if they move they can’t force their communities to come with them.
I’m personally happy to see the back of Reddit, and am convincing anyone I can to switch too, but I can understand the challenge for the average user to switch. Hell, even Reddit is a technical step-up for a lotta people. The tech world has forced a paradigm that traps the average user, using the fact it all appears free as the bait. Be angry at big tech, not the ones they swindled.
The people who see the protest as a failure were many of the users who used the official app, default settings, and seldom if ever contributed to the site. They were never going to leave anyway.
Look how many people came here, and there is a noticeable decrease in the number of bots and trolls. I see this as a huge win for us users.
Not only are there fewer trolls here but there are but more well thought out replies and less attention seeking in general. The entirety of Reddit is going to turn into r/teenagers
It’s a matter of education and how they understand the situation I suppose. I was a Reddit refugee moving over from the official app because the news really showed how anti consumer the company was being. It’s not much of a protest, but I only go on Reddit now if I really need certain information, so I don’t think it’s a total failure.
Bots and trolls will probably follow as Lemmy grows and gains traction, but I hope by that time moderation will have improved and will be able to scale to handle that.
I suspect there are a lot of people here who are interested in Reddit, and also there might be something going on over on Reddit that’s resulting in a lot of news being generated about it.
Of course, that’s understandable. But there’s too many people here that are interested in the reddit drama such that it ends up taking over many subs, drowning out other content.
It’s like how r/worldnews was created, because despite r/news being general, there was so many Americans that US news dominated the sub. We need to do the same with reddit drama IMO.
That’s great, there are many places dedicated to just that topic! It doesn’t need to keep being posted here cluttering up actual news about actual tech items.
I don’t go to /c/cats and post about dogs. Or to /c/America and post about Europe. There is a place for everything. This community has been constantly clogged up with crap about reddit.
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All the worthwhile content creators will (or already have) move on and it’ll be even more of AI generated content circlejerk than it already is. No one should feel sorry for lurkers being lazy.
They need to embrace the dark side.
The only issue with the dynamic is that Redditors were too fixated with their position as “moderator” and were willing to acquiesce just to keep it. If they simply refused the free labor they’re giving a corporation who’s seeking profit by near any cost, they’d have had impact.
Reddit is a lot of peoples only form of community, especially if it’s obscure interests. Without it your more or less trapped in your local area.
I´m genuienely baffled why the mods of those protesting subs didn´t, at least as a backup plan, also created an alternative community on here right away. Sure, in the beginning, they might have hoped the protests could work. But even after the first two days blackuot, it was pretty clear that Reddit didn´t care at all. So why even fight this fight and not just go “Well, have fun without us Reddit. And here´s a tutorial on how to join us over at lemmy.” EDIT: I know some did. r/piracy I believe were pretty open about packing up and moving to lemmy. And as the days go by, more and more “stuff” I used Reddit for also pops up on some lemmy server or another. Still, an at least fairly organized move would have been nice.
Powerless to change Reddit. You can always do what I did and use lemmy instead.
This is the way.
It’s been so much nicer tbh, at least on Beehaw. I don’t have any reason to go back with Lemmy and RSS feeds
Same!
i find that the lack of community videos really holds me back from using lemmy as a primary website, but i do understand that video hosting is expensive, just kinda sucks
I’m not big on video content so that doesn’t bother me at all, but I could see how that might hold some people back if they prefer that. Funnily enough, I often won’t click a link if I see it goes to a video instead of an article.
That being said PeerTube is in the works, still a ways to go but it’s comin’
The best use of peertube might actually be integration with the rest of the fediverse - post from peertube buttons might actually make sense
It’s not monetizable so it’s not worth it for big content creators, but it’s absolutely perfect for posting a quick video for sharing via mastodon, kbin or lemmy
I agree! That seems like a great thing to add to the Fediverse road map. There are other more pressing issues that need to be worked on first but I’d love to see that level of integration eventually.
Yes! I’m also powerless to change every other social media platform out there. I’m glad to be here
Path of least resistance is usually best in these cases, and frankly, it’s nicer here. I have been waiting for Lemmy to pick up after trying other fediverse applications and there is no way I am going back for any application. Now we just need YT to implode.
If this reddit change did not occurred, I probably never had tried Lemmy (even if I’m in OSS world for 20+ years now). First thought is that I don’t think communities going black or mods leaving reddit will do anything to reddit, it’s so big and alternative are somehow a niche for geek that they will not loose most of their user base. For mods they’ll find out some way … On the other hand, I don’t care, I’m happy here on the fediverse, I participated more discussion here in 1 month than in years on reddit. I had bad experience on my first posts on reddit (probably not interesting enough for some and then downvoted a lot), and I think that I just always thought if my post will be appreciated or not and so and finally just didn’t post. I don’t have this feeling here.
I also had a terrible first experience posting on Reddit, which turned me off from activity submitting any content and only commenting rarely. I mostly lurked and voted, which I still thought of as participating in the community. But in my short time here (Kbin for me), I see the entire userbase as activity welcoming and generally nicer! Just looking at the voting scores, it seems that downvots are hardly used at all! Maybe it’s a good thing we’re separating from the common audience that was quick to turn toxic and become combative for the fun of it.
I haven’t gone back since the blackout, I get my content here and some other bookmarks I’d forgotten about.
Turns out a whole bunch of us were sick of reddit anyway and were eagerly awaiting a new place to go. I’d have never heard of the Fediverse if reddit hadn’t been dicks about API pricing. I knew as soon as I came here and started exploring that this was the way to go; reddit is old news, it’s been around for 18 years, that’s forever in internet time. It’s time to move onto the next thing and the idea of hundreds (thousands!) of federated servers talking and sharing content across platforms is very exciting to me.
this is my experience as well
I’ve been unhappy with the quality at reddit for years but there was no reasonable alternative that I knew about
I had heard about Mastodon but never really researched the wider fediverse until recently
now I will pretty much never use any corporate owned website again and will exclusively use federated software
I wonder what would happen if redditors just start ignoring rules… 🤔
They’d get banned
Powerless… Lol. Maybe if you have shit for brains and keep using reddit.
Go easy on people. It’s hard to change, and something like lemmy can be intimidating for people to get on board with. That’s ignoring the fact that even if they move they can’t force their communities to come with them.
I’m personally happy to see the back of Reddit, and am convincing anyone I can to switch too, but I can understand the challenge for the average user to switch. Hell, even Reddit is a technical step-up for a lotta people. The tech world has forced a paradigm that traps the average user, using the fact it all appears free as the bait. Be angry at big tech, not the ones they swindled.
They are not powerless. They have their own choice. Stop going there!
The ones who stay probably do see themselves as powerless, which is a pretty self-fulfilling prophecy.
If they are sick of it then come here or to Lemmy.
The people who see the protest as a failure were many of the users who used the official app, default settings, and seldom if ever contributed to the site. They were never going to leave anyway.
Look how many people came here, and there is a noticeable decrease in the number of bots and trolls. I see this as a huge win for us users.
Not only are there fewer trolls here but there are but more well thought out replies and less attention seeking in general. The entirety of Reddit is going to turn into r/teenagers
🌎 👨🚀 🔫 👩🚀
I should have seen this coming
I couldn’t resist :P
It’s a matter of education and how they understand the situation I suppose. I was a Reddit refugee moving over from the official app because the news really showed how anti consumer the company was being. It’s not much of a protest, but I only go on Reddit now if I really need certain information, so I don’t think it’s a total failure.
Bots and trolls will probably follow as Lemmy grows and gains traction, but I hope by that time moderation will have improved and will be able to scale to handle that.
they aren’t powerless, they just leave.
The power lies in leaving Reddit behind.
Oh. Cool. Yet another reddit drama thread in /c/technology
When do we change the name of this community to /c/YetAnotherRedditDramaCommunity instead of /c/technology ?
I suspect there are a lot of people here who are interested in Reddit, and also there might be something going on over on Reddit that’s resulting in a lot of news being generated about it.
Just a guess.
Of course, that’s understandable. But there’s too many people here that are interested in the reddit drama such that it ends up taking over many subs, drowning out other content.
It’s like how r/worldnews was created, because despite r/news being general, there was so many Americans that US news dominated the sub. We need to do the same with reddit drama IMO.
That’s great, there are many places dedicated to just that topic! It doesn’t need to keep being posted here cluttering up actual news about actual tech items.
I don’t go to /c/cats and post about dogs. Or to /c/America and post about Europe. There is a place for everything. This community has been constantly clogged up with crap about reddit.
I agree, this belongs on !RedditMigration , !snoocalypse, !Reddit Fails@forum.fail or something similar.