For video files I always set it to download first and last parts of files first. You can watch a video fairly well with like 50% downloaded if the file has the first and last section, which contain the data about how the video is stored. It’ll have occasional glitches, but it mostly works. At 99% it’s effectively all there and you may not even notice that last 1%, let alone 0.1%.
Why do people do this? Readmes and nfo files take up literal kilobytes… even over hundreds or even thousands of downloads, at most it’s going to take up a few extra megabytes of download/storage, they’re not saving anything at all. And it can be nice when the nfo includes all the releaser’s original encode settings and stuff.
I recently had a torrent finish after a year and a half. It wasn’t something I was really concerned about but it gave me a nice feeling to know it had finished.
IDK. It was hung up at 70 something % and I never got around to deleting it. Then one day after having long forgotten about it the notification saying it was done popped up and I was like “holy shit!”
Once or twice I’ve gone and found another source for the download, copied it into my torrents folder, forced my torrent client to re-scan the file and started seeding it.
Watching a thousand other clients tick over from 99% to ‘seeding’ is weirdly gratifying.
What’s even worse is when a torrent is stalled at around 94%, there’s exactly one seeder with a full copy in the peer list, but he has fucked up networking rules (or an intentionally choked upload because he’s a dirty leecher) so that despite having an open connection in the peer list, they never send any data…
anything under about 20kb/s is pretty much dead on the larger torrents… a lot of people will turn down their upload limits so that protocol traffic can pass but actual pieces never get sent. It’s irritating to say the least.
i had a similar one, godawful speed (i don’t remember how much, but it was measured in single or double digit kbit/s) and turned on their computer when i went to bed, and off exactly when i came back from work.
ended up leaving the computer on the whole day for a few days. this guy owes me 5 bucks.
If he’s the single seed left on a torrent, chances are he’s the last seed on a bunch of other torrents as well, and his bandwidth is being choked by everyone who wants his stuff.
Wouldn’t torrents be able to solve that issue because everyone is sharing with everyone else?
The last peer might only have 10kbps upload but as long as the other peers are sharing with one another everyone can pull down 10kbps because that is how fast new data is getting sent to the swarm.
Seeds fall off quickly on public trackers and the people who do long-term seeding on publics tend to end up seeding larger libraries. So you’ll often be the one person in the world seeding a large number of torrents. Multiple leeches is only a theoretical help because when it finally seeds out, half the people quit immediately, some hang around to seed to the last leechers, and a couple hang around for a week or two before feeling they’ve done their due diligence and signing off. Things are quiet on that torrent for a month or so, and then a new leech shows up and the whole thing repeats again. It’s why I stopped seeding on publics: it’s extremely demoralizing to finally get copies of something out to the dozen or so people who have accumulated, only for every one of them to fuck off right after they finish.
This seems to happen alot. I always wondered if it is really a peer or some weird spoofed peer that just tries to give you hope before crushing your dreams.
Want to be honest here, my real pet peeve is that it shows 100%. Ever. At all. Let alone when it hangs there… That’s just insulting.
If it is 100% complete, I should not be waiting for anything. If I were ever developing an operating system I would never allow for 100% to display on a progress bar. 100% means it’s done. We advance to the next screen. Do not display it. It makes no sense.
I do often desire a “click to continue” option, especially helpful for asynchronous tasks. Start a render, and when you get back it says 100% without you having to look at the output folder, for instance. I get what you mean though, it certainly should say 100% unless it’s totally donezo. Probably lazy rounding errors in some cases (Microsoft products are the worst at showing accurate progress bars)
Oh for sure! Not trying to get on your back, just agreeing from a UI developers pov :) I seem to have misunderstood your original intent but we’re saying the same stuff I think
Haha agreed, if we’re talking about kilobytes of missing data brute forcing is intractable.
There may be structure to exploit in the data format. E.g. if you’re recovering missing content from a book written in English, you can probably get away with enumerating only printable ASCII and 90% of the letters will be lowercase.
But practically, I am unconvinced because the information density is pretty high on the kinds of things people like to torrent.
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I have a lot of these just go to 100% after checking the downloaded files.
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Yarr you need some wind in yer sails matey
Check the files included in the torrent. Sometimes the folders include a little readme or something that people set to not download.
Yes I’ve even had a video file stop at 99.9% and it still played just fine.
For video files I always set it to download first and last parts of files first. You can watch a video fairly well with like 50% downloaded if the file has the first and last section, which contain the data about how the video is stored. It’ll have occasional glitches, but it mostly works. At 99% it’s effectively all there and you may not even notice that last 1%, let alone 0.1%.
Yea sometimes I’ll exclude the .nfo from my downloads. Thankfully the tracker I’m on now disallows any files that aren’t media in their uploads.
Are srt files also disallowed?
But nfos are useful
And can contain some fun ascii art.
And hateful monologs.
We love those especially.
Why do people do this? Readmes and nfo files take up literal kilobytes… even over hundreds or even thousands of downloads, at most it’s going to take up a few extra megabytes of download/storage, they’re not saving anything at all. And it can be nice when the nfo includes all the releaser’s original encode settings and stuff.
Why do I need to know that “Torrent was downloaded from TheSiteINeverVisited.nfo”? It’s just extra noise I don’t need.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Extra files are messy.
true, but my jellyfin server doesn’t care. if i didn’t want it, i would’ve unselected it when importing the torrent.
Wouldn’t that still leave the user waiting unless they too unselected it?
What is it? If it’s a video it’s probably fine.
No it’s not. You try wating for an hour with your dick in your hand edging while waiting to see some serious… ahem… debates over global warming.
Huh?
Porn. He’s talking about porn.
Yeah but that is video, if you have 99.9% of the file often times it plays just fine.
what
What, you’ve never edged while waiting to see a heated debate?
I edge the whole time and only release once the post debate analysis begins.
You should get your money back!
Don’t worry, some hero without a cape will appear for you and seed that bitch! (wait, that sound better in my head).
I recently had a torrent finish after a year and a half. It wasn’t something I was really concerned about but it gave me a nice feeling to know it had finished.
What in tarnation? who did that to you, what monster…
what in the world compelled you to want it that way?
IDK. It was hung up at 70 something % and I never got around to deleting it. Then one day after having long forgotten about it the notification saying it was done popped up and I was like “holy shit!”
Once or twice I’ve gone and found another source for the download, copied it into my torrents folder, forced my torrent client to re-scan the file and started seeding it.
Watching a thousand other clients tick over from 99% to ‘seeding’ is weirdly gratifying.
Not all hero’s wear capes. Also just so you know there’s a script which does this automatically
That’s nice, where?
There’s some you can search like cross seeding script
Details?
There’s some you can search like cross seeding script
Hehe it’s coming soon
Sounds fine to me.
Phew, thanks.
i usually find anything past 98% is just done.
Easy. Next time just download the last percentage first.
What’s even worse is when a torrent is stalled at around 94%, there’s exactly one seeder with a full copy in the peer list, but he has fucked up networking rules (or an intentionally choked upload because he’s a dirty leecher) so that despite having an open connection in the peer list, they never send any data…
What do you consider choked? I know a lot of people do not have good upload speeds regardless of what the download speeds are.
Choked, as in turned to 0b/s
Hey, no need to be sarcastic! /s
anything under about 20kb/s is pretty much dead on the larger torrents… a lot of people will turn down their upload limits so that protocol traffic can pass but actual pieces never get sent. It’s irritating to say the least.
OK, i have mine capped to not bog down the network but it’s still way more than that, lol.
i had a similar one, godawful speed (i don’t remember how much, but it was measured in single or double digit kbit/s) and turned on their computer when i went to bed, and off exactly when i came back from work.
ended up leaving the computer on the whole day for a few days. this guy owes me 5 bucks.
If he’s the single seed left on a torrent, chances are he’s the last seed on a bunch of other torrents as well, and his bandwidth is being choked by everyone who wants his stuff.
Wouldn’t torrents be able to solve that issue because everyone is sharing with everyone else?
The last peer might only have 10kbps upload but as long as the other peers are sharing with one another everyone can pull down 10kbps because that is how fast new data is getting sent to the swarm.
Seeds fall off quickly on public trackers and the people who do long-term seeding on publics tend to end up seeding larger libraries. So you’ll often be the one person in the world seeding a large number of torrents. Multiple leeches is only a theoretical help because when it finally seeds out, half the people quit immediately, some hang around to seed to the last leechers, and a couple hang around for a week or two before feeling they’ve done their due diligence and signing off. Things are quiet on that torrent for a month or so, and then a new leech shows up and the whole thing repeats again. It’s why I stopped seeding on publics: it’s extremely demoralizing to finally get copies of something out to the dozen or so people who have accumulated, only for every one of them to fuck off right after they finish.
This seems to happen alot. I always wondered if it is really a peer or some weird spoofed peer that just tries to give you hope before crushing your dreams.
Most likely it’s someone who has a VPN that doesn’t support P2P upload or has their config messed up.
I call them “zombie torrents”
Want to be honest here, my real pet peeve is that it shows 100%. Ever. At all. Let alone when it hangs there… That’s just insulting.
If it is 100% complete, I should not be waiting for anything. If I were ever developing an operating system I would never allow for 100% to display on a progress bar. 100% means it’s done. We advance to the next screen. Do not display it. It makes no sense.
maybe display it for the user for half a second. but nothing else.
my3d printer does this on long prints too, it’ll say 100% for up to 10 minutes when it’s a really long print. makes no goddamn sense.
probably rounding shit in the software and a lack of care on the manufacturer’s side.
I’m just saying that in the world of zeros and ones, a one should never be a zero.
I like this saying. I’m going to steal it. It’s mine now.
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Im 101% done with 100% progress bars
I do often desire a “click to continue” option, especially helpful for asynchronous tasks. Start a render, and when you get back it says 100% without you having to look at the output folder, for instance. I get what you mean though, it certainly should say 100% unless it’s totally donezo. Probably lazy rounding errors in some cases (Microsoft products are the worst at showing accurate progress bars)
I would say a click to continue screen would count as a next screen in the context of what I’m talking about.
I guess I should have been more clear as to say, it should never say 100%, and still be in the loading loop.
Oh for sure! Not trying to get on your back, just agreeing from a UI developers pov :) I seem to have misunderstood your original intent but we’re saying the same stuff I think
I’ve done the math for how long it’d take to randomly guess the last several kilobytes until something checksummed correctly.
I was not pleased with the answer.
wait until you hear about collisions (missing more bits than your hash output length guarantees a collision on average)
If its a piece at the beggining or end of the file it would likely be significantly easier
You know I never thought of that… but yeah that would be a good very very very very large number.
Like throwing puzzle pieces in the air and getting it to land completed.
On average it’ll take 2^(n-1) guesses to reconstruct 2^n bits, so… depends on how many hashes / sec you can do.
Let me save you some time: not enough.
Haha agreed, if we’re talking about kilobytes of missing data brute forcing is intractable.
There may be structure to exploit in the data format. E.g. if you’re recovering missing content from a book written in English, you can probably get away with enumerating only printable ASCII and 90% of the letters will be lowercase.
But practically, I am unconvinced because the information density is pretty high on the kinds of things people like to torrent.
That would put those crypto miners to better use at least
Could be me seeding the entire torrent except the readme file
The annoying thing about this is that automated systems (like Radarr/Sonarr) will never get notified that it’s complete, then.
If you go to your torrent client and disable the missing file, it should get reported as “complete” to the *arrs. Manual and annoying, but it works.
thanks
Lmfao. Hilarious.