Last trip to the grocery store I couldn’t find any non-US salad kits, and Silk NextMilk is made down there now, because I guess our plants were the listeria ones. Chip dip was surprisingly hard to find too, although I did it.
I’m very pleased with how many vegetables actually come from Mexico (definitely via the US though), and there’s even a few things you can get from greenhouses, so that situation is less dire than I’d expected.
Killed all social media outside the fediverse. Even for our small business. Dumped Amazon and looking into Linux to drop Microsoft too. Degoogling the phone. We’re pretty good at the grocery store because we grow a lot of our own and make what we can.
I’m interested in moving off Android but afraid of bricking my phone. Years ago I had flashed roms onto my galaxy s4 but these days I worry about not being able to get work calls if something goes wrong. How risky is it these days, also is there anything I should know ahead of time if I try to move to a linux os. Do they work well on cheaper phones?
Years ago I had flashed roms onto my galaxy s4 but these days I worry about not being able to get work calls if something goes wrong.
There are still issues with calling however I would say Ubuntu Touch has the best support that front as it is the most stable. It should be fine installing when following an official guide from that distro.
I should know ahead of time if I try to move to a linux os.
The cellular connectivity has issues and the apps are limited.
Do they work well on cheaper phones?
It really depends on how well the phone model is supported by the contributors. They have lists of their most supported phones that you can look at.
Thanks for the info! Going to say cheap phone, possible cellular connectivity issues might not be a good idea for me right yet. I’ll put it on the to do with next phone list. I sometimes do Instacart deliveries to supplement income when I accidentally splurge to much. Not having cellular in remote areas would mean I couldn’t work directions/electronic signatures for alcohol.
Yeah my normal job is in Nashville. Instacart is what I was talking about on the side. Basically it is just picking up stuff for people like groceries and hardware stores and dropping it off. Mostly it’s Kroger for me, grab 25 items, drop it off at their house and make a few extra dollars. Usually can make $100 on my day off doing that for 5 hours or so. You know how far the trips are before you take them so if you want further drives you can do them but you are paying for gas so usually I only take farther ones when they are for decent money amounts. I have taken some that are 30 miles into the middle of nowheresville. I’ve actually delivered to an Amish community as well.
Last year I moved from Ontario to Spain so avoiding American products has been pretty easy at the grocery store. The main thing has been cancelling online American services like Netflix, Amazon, Google one, Youtube Premium, etc.
There is movistar plus which is a bit like crave, so its 100% not cutting off the US as you can watch some american content on it. But it also has a lot of Spanish content which is fresh for us. We’re also looking at some UK streaming services that are available in Spain like BBC ITVX but we haven’t subscribed yet.
Also looking at the high seas for content we couldn’t get at either of those 😅
I’m currently switching all my computing/cloud stuff over to Canadian and/or EU providers. I’m going to move my domains to Easy DNS and try out a VPS from LunaNode.
I’m actually pretty pleased so far. I had to contact support to sort out a payment problem but they were incredibly quick to help me out. I think the price performance is pretty decent, but my needs are very minimal. The web ui is really straightforward as well, really no complaints.
Most of my groceries are either already made in Canada or imported from Mexico. I didn’t have to change much.
It’s not a cheap way to shop, I will admit, but it can be done. Canada makes a lot of food, especially here in BC where I live. Beef, pork, sausages, honey, dairy, milk-alternatives, breads, and so much more.
For non-grocery items there are numerous retailers that are Canadian. London Drugs is a great one here in western Canada. Online shopping is a bit harder because Amazon is so hard to replicate, but honestly at that point I just buy from Aliexpress. If I’m going to order cheap crap online I’ll just get it from the source instead of sending money to the US.
TBH I’m not even sure why they do that. We all know it’s from the same factory in Shenzhen as usual when we see that, right? And what comes tends to be basic but functional.
Yeah, I went with Earth’s Own in the end. Their attempt at copying Nextmilk has not hit the mark yet, unfortunately. Side thing - why are so many brands in Burnaby specifically?
As for Burnaby - I’m not sure exactly. Probably cheaper and more available land for commercial businesses. Vancouver is notoriously expensive and cramped.
Signed up for the Odd Bunch. You get imperfect produce which is still perfectly edible delivered all from local producers. Like a CSA share. It actually ends up being less expensive than the store. You’ll have to be creative in using it up, but it’s a great option. Link: https://go.referralcandy.com/share/9TSC9RD?s=sp&t=cp
I am also a subscriber. While some of the produce still comes from the US, I think it reduces our dependence by reducing waste. It is cheaper than the super market but still more expensive than the local grocers here in Vancouver.
Looks like it’s just major cities, which makes sense, but then again if you’re not in a major city you probably have gift overgrown zucchinis appearing on your front step anyway.
Obviously it’s either not fresh (which might be fine for onions or potatoes, by why not just deliver all at once?) or not local at all if it’s -20 outside.
It’s not really cost effective versus buying separate but way cheaper than going to a salad place and it saves stocking space for different toppings and dressings. We started eating more salads because we dont have to eat the same kind daily.
Thank you, as OP I was getting ready to defend why I can’t just make my own salad against an angry European purist, haha.
Every salad I personally make is ass in comparison - if I even bother on a busy day and with the hand issues I have. The ratios of things included are just right, there is (well, there was) a good variety available, and you don’t have to cut, wash and potentially roast a bunch of stuff for it because a big machine somewhere already did.
NextMilk is a mixture of different plant based milks. Its probably the closest to real milk but I find any brand of original (some sweetener but no extra flavoring e.g. vanilla) oat milk to be close enough that I don’t miss cow milk much.
It’s generally going well. I already did this boycott once before during Trump 1.0, so I know what do look for.
It’s a bit harder this time around because there are things we need where a Canadian (or at least non-American) alternative doesn’t exist. The big one is diapers, as we haven’t been able to find anything non-American that also works within our budget and time constraints.
It’s unfortunate, but also only temporary. My kids should be out of diapers in a few years, provided the world doesn’t end before then.
There are, but they aren’t feasible for us to use. We would love to, and even discussed it before our first kid was born, but the realities of our lives make them impractical.
We had a few in diapers at the same time, reusable ones with washable liners are the way to go. It means carrying a container till you get home to handle a dirty diaper, but the cost savings alone meant less working hours.
Yeah it’s going well. I already knew in November that Trump was going to fuck up the economy one way or another, so I bought a handful of bigger ticket stuff from the states at that time for Black Friday.
The main food staple I’ve had to change so far is baby carrots, I usually get the California organic ones in bulk at Costco. I just have to make a separate trip to my smaller local grocer for substitutes.
I thought looking at the list online would be annoying until I realized you can just look at the food labels. So it’s easy. Had to buy cabbage instead of lettuce last time I was at the store. That’s about it.
Excellent grocery shopping today. We didn’t buy anything US (we think). The red cabbage didn’t have any country listed and we assumed it’s Mexican since the green ones were. We didn’t have to switch lots but for some products we bought alternatives: taco shells, granola bars, salsa. We also found some Canadian stuff sold out or almost: ketchup, cereal (we picked a different Canadian one). It’s fun to try new stuff! Also really excited about tomatoes, cucumbers, bell peppers, lettuce and basil from Alberta! This is very early in the year for us to get local produce!
No Alberta bell peppers where I shopped, unfortunately. It’s interesting that they’re doing that in greenhouses as well. I went with Mexico, which is fine, they’re cool, but the thing is you know it came in through the US.
I didn’t buy any fresh tomatoes this time around, so I don’t actually know what’s available.
I was impressed that they have them in February. It’s pretty cold an early in the season for bell peppers. Tomatoes grow like weeds but bell peppers are slower. Mexico works as well. I shop Canada first and then almost anything but US second. For example I don’t like garlic from China.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !canada@lemmy.ca
Killed all social media outside the fediverse. Even for our small business. Dumped Amazon and looking into Linux to drop Microsoft too. Degoogling the phone. We’re pretty good at the grocery store because we grow a lot of our own and make what we can.
Damn, that’s next level commitment! I’ve gotten rid of everything personally, but giving up on my income source being easy to find would scare me.
Also, RIP DivestOS. Still sad about that.
Fuck em. We will manage. They can eat a bag of dicks. If I could eliminate all American influence from our lives I would.
Mastodon is free, might be better than going totally off grid for your business.
The audience is smaller than twitter was, but if you find a niche the people are quite nice
If you have a pixel phone then GrapheneOS is a solid choice.
If you’re up for a challenge try Ubuntu Touch, Mobian, Sailfish and Postmarket OS!
!linuxphones@lemmy.ca
I’m interested in moving off Android but afraid of bricking my phone. Years ago I had flashed roms onto my galaxy s4 but these days I worry about not being able to get work calls if something goes wrong. How risky is it these days, also is there anything I should know ahead of time if I try to move to a linux os. Do they work well on cheaper phones?
There are still issues with calling however I would say Ubuntu Touch has the best support that front as it is the most stable. It should be fine installing when following an official guide from that distro.
The cellular connectivity has issues and the apps are limited.
It really depends on how well the phone model is supported by the contributors. They have lists of their most supported phones that you can look at.
Thanks for the info! Going to say cheap phone, possible cellular connectivity issues might not be a good idea for me right yet. I’ll put it on the to do with next phone list. I sometimes do Instacart deliveries to supplement income when I accidentally splurge to much. Not having cellular in remote areas would mean I couldn’t work directions/electronic signatures for alcohol.
The open-source efficient Organic Maps can help with that.
Your job sounds really cool! Seeing all the beautiful countryside!
Yeah my normal job is in Nashville. Instacart is what I was talking about on the side. Basically it is just picking up stuff for people like groceries and hardware stores and dropping it off. Mostly it’s Kroger for me, grab 25 items, drop it off at their house and make a few extra dollars. Usually can make $100 on my day off doing that for 5 hours or so. You know how far the trips are before you take them so if you want further drives you can do them but you are paying for gas so usually I only take farther ones when they are for decent money amounts. I have taken some that are 30 miles into the middle of nowheresville. I’ve actually delivered to an Amish community as well.
Last year I moved from Ontario to Spain so avoiding American products has been pretty easy at the grocery store. The main thing has been cancelling online American services like Netflix, Amazon, Google one, Youtube Premium, etc.
Cancel them, but don’t stop watching American stuff you like. Just don’t pay for it.
This is the way 🏴☠️
What are you doing for streaming then? High seas, or is there something local available in Spain?
There is movistar plus which is a bit like crave, so its 100% not cutting off the US as you can watch some american content on it. But it also has a lot of Spanish content which is fresh for us. We’re also looking at some UK streaming services that are available in Spain like BBC ITVX but we haven’t subscribed yet.
Also looking at the high seas for content we couldn’t get at either of those 😅
https://www.simplehomelab.com/docker-media-server-2024/
It’s a little daunting but once you get it up and running with a VPN, you’ll never miss those enshitified streaming services.
I’m American and I’d rather buy Canadian too
I’m joining the war on Canada… on the side of Canada. 🇨🇦
Then we shall turn this continent into an orgy of maple syrup!
I’m American and I’d rather be Canadian, too. Best I can do is Mexican and that’s looking better every day.
We should probably get out before they close the borders for us too
Hopefully, one of these days they make it easier to emigrate from America, if that’s of any interest to you.
Anyone have suggestions for Canadian cat food that isn’t overpriced? I’ve got like 15 cats so I go through a lot in a month.
Most Purina products are at least produced and manufactured in Canada. I have been using the beyond line of products and my cats love it.
Sadly, it is a mega agro corp.
https://agripurina.ca/about/
I guess it uses Canadian farms, but Purina is owned by Nestlé.
Dammit.
I knew there was a catch.
Huh TIL. I’ve mainly been feeding them that and the co-op stuff (Which they don’t care for so I usually blend them together.)
Acana is Canadian, though they are not super cheap but certainly not the most expensive either. My dogs like it, and one of them is a picky eater.
I’m currently switching all my computing/cloud stuff over to Canadian and/or EU providers. I’m going to move my domains to Easy DNS and try out a VPS from LunaNode.
Would you recommend LunaNode? I’ve been looking for AWS, gcloud, Azure, and DigitalOcean alternatives and a lot are underwhelming.
I’m actually pretty pleased so far. I had to contact support to sort out a payment problem but they were incredibly quick to help me out. I think the price performance is pretty decent, but my needs are very minimal. The web ui is really straightforward as well, really no complaints.
I was about to say there’s TunnelBear VPN, but, just found out they’ve been acquired by McAfee , so boo.
I use Mullvad, based in Sweden. Works great for me.
Private Internet Access is UK-owned, it looks like.
Most of my groceries are either already made in Canada or imported from Mexico. I didn’t have to change much.
It’s not a cheap way to shop, I will admit, but it can be done. Canada makes a lot of food, especially here in BC where I live. Beef, pork, sausages, honey, dairy, milk-alternatives, breads, and so much more.
For non-grocery items there are numerous retailers that are Canadian. London Drugs is a great one here in western Canada. Online shopping is a bit harder because Amazon is so hard to replicate, but honestly at that point I just buy from Aliexpress. If I’m going to order cheap crap online I’ll just get it from the source instead of sending money to the US.
Seconded. half the stuff on Amazon is legendary brands like FleySwui08 or Glai77Zalo or Blukogluko. All highly recommended, of course.
TBH I’m not even sure why they do that. We all know it’s from the same factory in Shenzhen as usual when we see that, right? And what comes tends to be basic but functional.
London Drugs is excellent! They even have an online filter for Canadian products.
Yeah, I went with Earth’s Own in the end. Their attempt at copying Nextmilk has not hit the mark yet, unfortunately. Side thing - why are so many brands in Burnaby specifically?
Earth’s Own is great. I love their oat milk.
As for Burnaby - I’m not sure exactly. Probably cheaper and more available land for commercial businesses. Vancouver is notoriously expensive and cramped.
Signed up for the Odd Bunch. You get imperfect produce which is still perfectly edible delivered all from local producers. Like a CSA share. It actually ends up being less expensive than the store. You’ll have to be creative in using it up, but it’s a great option. Link: https://go.referralcandy.com/share/9TSC9RD?s=sp&t=cp
Wonder if there’s a version of this from the states.
Looks like this is: https://www.imperfectfoods.com/
I am also a subscriber. While some of the produce still comes from the US, I think it reduces our dependence by reducing waste. It is cheaper than the super market but still more expensive than the local grocers here in Vancouver.
I don’t mind supporting small farms in the US or buying their imperfect produce so it doesn’t get wasted.
Looks like it’s just major cities, which makes sense, but then again if you’re not in a major city you probably have gift overgrown zucchinis appearing on your front step anyway.
What months does it run where you live?
I just started, I think every month. I’ll find out, my SO ordered it so I’m not sure.
Obviously it’s either not fresh (which might be fine for onions or potatoes, by why not just deliver all at once?) or not local at all if it’s -20 outside.
As someone who isn’t a North American… What is a salad kit?
A mix of greens in a bag, often with a pouch of dressing and a bag of nuts tossed in as well.
Thank you… You know, that sounds mighty civilised.
It’s not really cost effective versus buying separate but way cheaper than going to a salad place and it saves stocking space for different toppings and dressings. We started eating more salads because we dont have to eat the same kind daily.
Yes, I suspect I’ll just be eating less salad now, unfortunately.
On the bright side, I’ll save a bit of money that way. Hopefully I still get enough fresh stuff to dodge scurvy.
Thank you, as OP I was getting ready to defend why I can’t just make my own salad against an angry European purist, haha.
Every salad I personally make is ass in comparison - if I even bother on a busy day and with the hand issues I have. The ratios of things included are just right, there is (well, there was) a good variety available, and you don’t have to cut, wash and potentially roast a bunch of stuff for it because a big machine somewhere already did.
they’re pretty handy if you only want one salad, instead of eating it every day
It is an expensive way to eat. But somewhat makes sense for a single person meal
Hmm, I find the full-size ones usually serve two.
If you ate it twice you could make it work, but it’s going to be soggy on day two.
I can eat a whole Five Guys Large order of Fries my self so…
I had to buy moisturizer. I saw two on the shelf. Flipped the labels, one was made in USA, the other made Canada. I picked the latter. That was it.
Get Cutibase if you can find it. Made in Quebec, works really well, scent-free.
I bought Cetaphil. Would look into Cutibase next time around.
Very disappointed to hear Silk NextMilk is made in America. Other plant based milks just aren’t the same. Have you found a good alternative?
Earth’s Own is Canadian and really good.
I buy Earth Own oatmilk but it’s just not as good with cereal :(
NotMilk, it is quite milk like. And company is from Chile.
Have u tried making peanut milk at home? It doesn’t take more than 10 min and is incredibly underrated.
I tried the Good Earth oat-coconut blend. No bones, don’t recommend as of now. Honestly if that’s the brand I’m going back to just oat.
NextMilk is a mixture of different plant based milks. Its probably the closest to real milk but I find any brand of original (some sweetener but no extra flavoring e.g. vanilla) oat milk to be close enough that I don’t miss cow milk much.
Next milk is a Silk product
I know. 😕
As an American, pretty good, we don’t produce shit here.
It’s clearly a salad kit-based economy. /s
That’s a lie. We produce the highest quality bullshit in the world.
It’s generally going well. I already did this boycott once before during Trump 1.0, so I know what do look for.
It’s a bit harder this time around because there are things we need where a Canadian (or at least non-American) alternative doesn’t exist. The big one is diapers, as we haven’t been able to find anything non-American that also works within our budget and time constraints.
It’s unfortunate, but also only temporary. My kids should be out of diapers in a few years, provided the world doesn’t end before then.
Contact your local store to order https://www.royale.ca/diapers Made in New Brunswick.
I’ll do some research today to see if they are available where I live, or if they can be made so. Thanks for the tip.
Oh, well that looks promising!
We did it, Lemmy?
It looks like AliExpress sells some diapers. I have no idea how they compare price-wise, though, and the quality is bound to be somewhat lower.
In China they culturally have an alternate solution, so maybe that’s why outsourcing has been slower in the diaper market.
No cloth diapers in Canada?
There are, but they aren’t feasible for us to use. We would love to, and even discussed it before our first kid was born, but the realities of our lives make them impractical.
Ah. I used a diaper service for my kid and it was pretty handy. Then again, that was 30 years ago and everything was much more affordable.
We had a few in diapers at the same time, reusable ones with washable liners are the way to go. It means carrying a container till you get home to handle a dirty diaper, but the cost savings alone meant less working hours.
Yeah it’s going well. I already knew in November that Trump was going to fuck up the economy one way or another, so I bought a handful of bigger ticket stuff from the states at that time for Black Friday.
The main food staple I’ve had to change so far is baby carrots, I usually get the California organic ones in bulk at Costco. I just have to make a separate trip to my smaller local grocer for substitutes.
Hmm. I was stocked up on carrots, so I haven’t actually looked yet.
I did notice the huge Chinese kind are actually from China. I’m gonna need a different knife if I go with those, haha.
I thought looking at the list online would be annoying until I realized you can just look at the food labels. So it’s easy. Had to buy cabbage instead of lettuce last time I was at the store. That’s about it.
What were you doing with it? Cabbage is great but it’s not exactly the same as lettuce.
Putting it in wraps and cooking it with soy.
Mmm, that sounds good. I guess the lettuce would have gone in raw instead, then?
Damn, I think it’s wraps for me too tonight. I managed to find local greenhouse lettuce, which somehow is economically viable.
Excellent grocery shopping today. We didn’t buy anything US (we think). The red cabbage didn’t have any country listed and we assumed it’s Mexican since the green ones were. We didn’t have to switch lots but for some products we bought alternatives: taco shells, granola bars, salsa. We also found some Canadian stuff sold out or almost: ketchup, cereal (we picked a different Canadian one). It’s fun to try new stuff! Also really excited about tomatoes, cucumbers, bell peppers, lettuce and basil from Alberta! This is very early in the year for us to get local produce!
No Alberta bell peppers where I shopped, unfortunately. It’s interesting that they’re doing that in greenhouses as well. I went with Mexico, which is fine, they’re cool, but the thing is you know it came in through the US.
I didn’t buy any fresh tomatoes this time around, so I don’t actually know what’s available.
I was impressed that they have them in February. It’s pretty cold an early in the season for bell peppers. Tomatoes grow like weeds but bell peppers are slower. Mexico works as well. I shop Canada first and then almost anything but US second. For example I don’t like garlic from China.