New consoles used to be a big deal. Generational leaps still are, but we’ve fallen into a malaise in recent years as new models and more powerful advancements come along and we all shrug our shoulders before getting on with our day.
That’s a distinctly “game journalists have nothing to write about” problem.
Anyway, this was a chance for Sony to finally ship functional Bluetooth with their damn Console. Guess not.
I have XM5 which is also made by Sony, and is their most expensive headphones. So they clearly know how to make BT work. They just refuse to, to sell you their damn Pulse headphones.
Hasn’t every other generation come with a price decrease and a bigger size reduction? This seems like it’s really just a new model.
The biggest upgrade is the SSD size. But digital is getting more expensive (but also has the disc drive option). Seems like it’s just not enough upside for anyone to get excited over compared to previous generations.
I don’t understand why anyone would buy the $450 digital version plus a $70 Bluray disc drive add-on rather than just paying $500 for a disc model capable of playing blurays and games. Very strange on Sony’s part.
Having a digital only version of a console is very concerning from an e-waste point of view. It’ll be an odd-shaped brick years later when the digital store front is long gone and the old SSD gets corrupted.
I don’t think it’s for people planning on buying the disc drive. But it’s a nice way to avoid FOMO for anyone that doesn’t want to get locked out of discs forever (without buying a whole new console).
Plus, for people looking to save some money, it could be an opportunistic purchase if they find it for cheap later.
I’ve just built a PC last month and it’s where I’m going to be from now on. I’m so sick of console’s going the extra mile to squeeze every last penny out of us with their PS+ bullshit. I’ll just use steam for the new games I like playing and emulate all the old games. It’s been so much fun figuring things out. Better picture. Better FPS and the mouse and keyboard are much better than a controller. I can’t believe I’ve missed out on PC all these years.
I have tried it. It was actually pretty decent. You can even upgrade the screen to a higher resolution now if you feel adventurous.
Or you can just install holoOS (the steam deck OS) on a smaller PC and set it up to your tv and game all day with a controller. Or you can dock the steam deck to your TV and connect any controller to it. With linux, the possibilities are endless.
There’s a lot less Maintenance and tinkering involved with consoles, and Im spending a hell of a lot more than $500 every 7 years to maintain a PC capable of playing the latest titles well enough. A lot less cheating in PvP too.
Welcome to PC! One thing I wish I knew back when I started on PC was https://isthereanydeal.com, checks a bunch of safe sites to buy games from (most in Steam key form, some just for other stores in general) and can email you when any of them go on sale.
Also, the Augmented Steam browser extension (Chrome/etc) (Firefox) is really nice, sadly no version of it to work in the Steam client itself that I know of, but it adds a ton of QOL to the store.
Can I ask what your parts you used for your build? I’ve been enticed by the PC route as well because of the same bs from PlayStation you have outlined here. Everytime I look at building a PC I get overwhelmed by all the options though
I got an AMD ryzen 7 5700G CPU 8 cores 16 threads here. an AMD RX580 graphics card(very old card from 2017 but works amazing here. Modular 750 wats crosair power supply here. 16GB of ddr4 ram at 3200 mhz (any brand works don’t worry) here. A gigabyte motherboard A520i here.. I picked a montech case mini tower here.
Edit: I already had the storage from a dell mini I had before this one. I now have 512 SSD for the root partition. 1 TB 2.5" SATA SSD for the home partition and a third 2TB 2.5" SATA SSD to store all my games on and for the steam library.
Try setting a budget and looking for the GPU that fits within it, everything else more or less builds itself from there as you check the recommended CPU pairings and requirements they have on your other components.
pcpartpicker.com is a good resource. You can see the community builds for inspiration at least. It also tells you about most incompabilities for your build, but it’s best to check with someone so you won’t get parts that do not work with each other.
Oh yeah, Release Candidate is here. Does that mean they’ve fixed the heating issues of the Beta (Original PS5)?
In all seriousness, it’s essentially the same console, just a little smaller. Nothing to be excited about, as if it’s the PS5 Pro. Not only is it a little smaller, but it also is more expensive. Might be better in some aspects, might not, I don’t know that at this point in time.
I guess if anything, it has slightly more storage… but I’ve already paid for a faster and larger capacity M.2 upgrade, so kind of a moot point?
Maybe I should have changed the title of the post to something different from the one of the article. I see a lot of people responding to the title but there is a lot of stuff in the article that I find quite interesting (the lack of new first party exclusives, focus on cloud gaming).
Anecdotally, I find I get better discussions on posts if I include quotes from the article I find particularly relevant or poignant. I also like to comment my own feelings on the article in the comments as well. I don’t think the issue was the title of the article necessarily.
In this case, what sections did you wish people were discussing? To me, the section about the exclusives did not feel particularly engaging since the number of exclusives mentioned was actually pretty high since most games on a console trend to be third party.
If there is an argument being made you would like to highlight, I would certainly be interested in seeing it.
Honestly, I have no issue with exclusives as long as they get released on another platform after a while. Sony’s been good about releasing a lot of the hits on PC after a couple years, so aside from missing the initial hype, I haven’t really missed out being PC only.
Exclusives that stay exclusive indefinitely, I basically treat those games as if they don’t exist. I don’t have anywhere to put a PS5, nor a desire to get one really, and as far as I know they make most of their money from game sales anyway. I don’t see much value in them locking people out of their games completely.
The lack of exclusives is really bad considering there are only like 4 or 5 real exclusives, and one of them is the tech demo that comes with the console (Astro’s Playroom).
I mean, people have been speculating on a PS5 Slim for a while now, so that might be why fanfare around it is so muted. On the other hand, I do get what the article is saying. This whole console generation has just felt weird. Obviously, the pandemic played a big role in that but sometimes it’s hard to believe that this generation started three years ago. It doesn’t feel like there have really been any must-have, generation-defining games on either console at this point.
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That’s a distinctly “game journalists have nothing to write about” problem.
Anyway, this was a chance for Sony to finally ship functional Bluetooth with their damn Console. Guess not.
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I have XM5 which is also made by Sony, and is their most expensive headphones. So they clearly know how to make BT work. They just refuse to, to sell you their damn Pulse headphones.
Why would it have fanfare? It’s the same thing they’ve done for every generation
Yup. Also the PS5 doesnt have hardly any unique games, so…
I guess that’s the point the article is trying to make.
Bro I’m still having bloodborne withdrawals but I guess that’s PlayStation 4…
Yeah, it’s fine to have it, but it’s really about less material for them.
It’s not actually “better” in any meaningful way, just smaller. No one ever cared.
Hasn’t every other generation come with a price decrease and a bigger size reduction? This seems like it’s really just a new model.
The biggest upgrade is the SSD size. But digital is getting more expensive (but also has the disc drive option). Seems like it’s just not enough upside for anyone to get excited over compared to previous generations.
I don’t understand why anyone would buy the $450 digital version plus a $70 Bluray disc drive add-on rather than just paying $500 for a disc model capable of playing blurays and games. Very strange on Sony’s part.
Cause if you don’t buy the $70 disc drive, then you save $50. That’s the logic…
Long as you’re happy to be limited to digital purchases and not be able to buy 2nd hand games.
I guess the disc drive is also good if you decide a year or two later ‘hmmm, maybe I should’ve got the disc version actually’.
I think it will be cool for the used market. Buy a digital one used and upgrade it with the disc drive. Makes Sony some money from used PS5s again.
Having a digital only version of a console is very concerning from an e-waste point of view. It’ll be an odd-shaped brick years later when the digital store front is long gone and the old SSD gets corrupted.
I don’t think it’s for people planning on buying the disc drive. But it’s a nice way to avoid FOMO for anyone that doesn’t want to get locked out of discs forever (without buying a whole new console).
Plus, for people looking to save some money, it could be an opportunistic purchase if they find it for cheap later.
I don’t think it does?
I’ve just built a PC last month and it’s where I’m going to be from now on. I’m so sick of console’s going the extra mile to squeeze every last penny out of us with their PS+ bullshit. I’ll just use steam for the new games I like playing and emulate all the old games. It’s been so much fun figuring things out. Better picture. Better FPS and the mouse and keyboard are much better than a controller. I can’t believe I’ve missed out on PC all these years.
I switched the opposite direction a year or two ago.
Being stuck sat a desk at work all day makes me want to game on the sofa in the evenings and I find a console a much handier way of doing that.
Steam deck is calling
I’ve a friend with one that I want to try sometime!
I have tried it. It was actually pretty decent. You can even upgrade the screen to a higher resolution now if you feel adventurous. Or you can just install holoOS (the steam deck OS) on a smaller PC and set it up to your tv and game all day with a controller. Or you can dock the steam deck to your TV and connect any controller to it. With linux, the possibilities are endless.
What’s a console except a small computer with an HDMI port for your tv and a Bluetooth adapter for your controllers?
There’s a lot less Maintenance and tinkering involved with consoles, and Im spending a hell of a lot more than $500 every 7 years to maintain a PC capable of playing the latest titles well enough. A lot less cheating in PvP too.
Welcome to PC! One thing I wish I knew back when I started on PC was https://isthereanydeal.com, checks a bunch of safe sites to buy games from (most in Steam key form, some just for other stores in general) and can email you when any of them go on sale.
Also, the Augmented Steam browser extension (Chrome/etc) (Firefox) is really nice, sadly no version of it to work in the Steam client itself that I know of, but it adds a ton of QOL to the store.
Thank you so much. I have signed up. The extension isn’t working on firefox, though. I will look into more and see. Hope it is not a linux thing.
Shouldn’t be a linux thing, I use it on Linux and Firefox myself, not sure what could be causing the issue for you though
No worries. I’ll look into it and submit a a report on GitHub for the dev if they have one.
Can I ask what your parts you used for your build? I’ve been enticed by the PC route as well because of the same bs from PlayStation you have outlined here. Everytime I look at building a PC I get overwhelmed by all the options though
I got an AMD ryzen 7 5700G CPU 8 cores 16 threads here. an AMD RX580 graphics card(very old card from 2017 but works amazing here. Modular 750 wats crosair power supply here. 16GB of ddr4 ram at 3200 mhz (any brand works don’t worry) here. A gigabyte motherboard A520i here.. I picked a montech case mini tower here.
Edit: I already had the storage from a dell mini I had before this one. I now have 512 SSD for the root partition. 1 TB 2.5" SATA SSD for the home partition and a third 2TB 2.5" SATA SSD to store all my games on and for the steam library.
Try setting a budget and looking for the GPU that fits within it, everything else more or less builds itself from there as you check the recommended CPU pairings and requirements they have on your other components.
pcpartpicker.com is a good resource. You can see the community builds for inspiration at least. It also tells you about most incompabilities for your build, but it’s best to check with someone so you won’t get parts that do not work with each other.
Yes it’s PC for me too. Steam Deck with GeForce Now for the most demanding titles.
Oh yeah, Release Candidate is here. Does that mean they’ve fixed the heating issues of the Beta (Original PS5)?
In all seriousness, it’s essentially the same console, just a little smaller. Nothing to be excited about, as if it’s the PS5 Pro. Not only is it a little smaller, but it also is more expensive. Might be better in some aspects, might not, I don’t know that at this point in time.
I guess if anything, it has slightly more storage… but I’ve already paid for a faster and larger capacity M.2 upgrade, so kind of a moot point?
Maybe I should have changed the title of the post to something different from the one of the article. I see a lot of people responding to the title but there is a lot of stuff in the article that I find quite interesting (the lack of new first party exclusives, focus on cloud gaming).
Anecdotally, I find I get better discussions on posts if I include quotes from the article I find particularly relevant or poignant. I also like to comment my own feelings on the article in the comments as well. I don’t think the issue was the title of the article necessarily.
In this case, what sections did you wish people were discussing? To me, the section about the exclusives did not feel particularly engaging since the number of exclusives mentioned was actually pretty high since most games on a console trend to be third party.
If there is an argument being made you would like to highlight, I would certainly be interested in seeing it.
This is good; exclusivity hurts consumers.
Honestly, I have no issue with exclusives as long as they get released on another platform after a while. Sony’s been good about releasing a lot of the hits on PC after a couple years, so aside from missing the initial hype, I haven’t really missed out being PC only.
Exclusives that stay exclusive indefinitely, I basically treat those games as if they don’t exist. I don’t have anywhere to put a PS5, nor a desire to get one really, and as far as I know they make most of their money from game sales anyway. I don’t see much value in them locking people out of their games completely.
The lack of exclusives is really bad considering there are only like 4 or 5 real exclusives, and one of them is the tech demo that comes with the console (Astro’s Playroom).
I’ve never understood the “slim” thing console makers have been doing.
“Behold! Our latest game system!”
six months later
“Behold! The system we should have made in the first place!”
PS5 is basically an early access version.
??? PS5 Slim is a smaller version of an already existing console. Its a QOL improvement. Why do we need to be excited about it?
Because capitalism! Aren’t we excited to go buy something that we already have??
But it’s slim! Slim!
I mean, people have been speculating on a PS5 Slim for a while now, so that might be why fanfare around it is so muted. On the other hand, I do get what the article is saying. This whole console generation has just felt weird. Obviously, the pandemic played a big role in that but sometimes it’s hard to believe that this generation started three years ago. It doesn’t feel like there have really been any must-have, generation-defining games on either console at this point.