It feels like every time I find a podcast about security/networking/technology the hosts end up saying some pretty off-color stuff, or I look them up and they also host right wing podcasts. Are there any that are more leftist, hosted by LGBT peeps, or at least not actively bigoted ?

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Tech Won’t Save Us

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FOSS Pod is also great

^^^ both of these are what you’re looking for OP

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Came here to post Tech Won’t Save Us.

Everyone loves him but essentially the same reason I can’t watch/listen to Louis Rossmann. I support the right to repair cause but his other views go way off.

I regularly view Rossman content, but I guess I don’t really know anything about him politically.

From a quick search, it looks like he’s willing to talk about tech issues with just about anyone of whatever leaning (like Sam Seider), but I could just be ignorant on this subject.

Is there a place where he typically shares his political opnions? Might even be his own channel, but perhaps the YouTube algorithm has me only watching his “neutral” stuff.

It leaks out a bit if you watch enough of his videos. I don’t get the sense that he’s right-wing in a MAGA ultra-bigot way, he’s just very very libertarian. Loose gun laws, low-taxes, government stay outta my life kinda guy.

Not the kind of politics I subscribe to, but I don’t consider him to be a bad person for it.

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~~Do you have a citation on Rossman supporting Trump?

I can’t say I’ve heard him express any political opinions outside of the fairly narrow lanes of right-to-repair and regulatory abuse. ~~

I think you misread my post.

But if you watch some of his videos on NYC and moving to Texas he’ll opine on some of his other views.

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Ah, sorry, I meant that reply to go to someone else. Apologies.

I’ve followed Louis Rossmann for more than 5 years and despite his channel has gone completely into opposing politics in wide themes, I haven’t got anything else out of his political views than that he is a democrat despite he opposes Biden and deBlasio in general.

For me, as a very anti-political follower and hater of every politician and party, I really admire how Louis has ability to oppose and point out the problematic themes in omnious way and always unrelated to party, which I find very rare in the US.

(English is my 3rd language)

Don’t know anything about him other than right to repair. What are his other views?

He does a lot of videos shitting on New York and thus has brought in a lot of right-wing people who hate the “liberal elites” who live there. I don’t find his views too bad tbh but his comments sections are always a complete shit show. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has changed for the worst due to audience capture.

The thing about Rossman is that yes, he echoes some right-wing talking points. Unlike most of us, he actually is a small business owner who was been repeatedly harassed and mishandled by regional authorities in New York city.

He’s a soldier on the front lines of the over-regulation and regulatory capture crisis. And I think folks on the right and left can agree that big companies working hand-in-hand with government to suppress new business hurts poor people. Whether he’s talking about John Deere’s or Apple’s anti-repair stance, Amazon’s over-reach when banning accounts for frivolous reasons, or New York’s labyrinthine rules, he’s really talking about the same fundamental problem: big organizations using rules and regulations to hurt poor folks.

With that said, I think his opinions on those matters are pretty narrowly confined to the details of running a business. I’ve watched quite a few of his YT videos and I never see him going “out of his lane” to express opinions on broader social trends. He’s not opining on abortion or trans people or any of the other cultural touchstones on the right. He’s no Qanon nutjob.

With that said, he’s not a general interest tech presenter, and he probably doesn’t have much to offer the OP. He’s pretty narrowly focused on repair and government/corporate abuse.

So you’re saying commenters are jerks - which is out of his control - then you speculate that you “wouldn’t be surprised if he has changed for the worst”

This is how a bad reputation spreads - through speculation and low effort commentary. You’ve said nothing valid but insulted the guy without any basis.

Not attacking you here - we all get lazy, but cite a personal interaction or observation of him specifically. Because otherwise you could just be besmirching a genuinely decent guy who’s trying his best.

Personally, I think he’s doing extraordinarily good things for the consumer world without a shred of reward for his efforts. Every gigantic company that enjoys screwing over consumers for extra profits hates him and tries to derail his work at every turn. He certainly doesn’t need to be shit on by someone who’s going purely on conjecture. So please don’t. :)

So you’re saying commenters are jerks - which is out of his control - then you speculate that you “wouldn’t be surprised if he has changed for the worst”

Not who you’re responding to, but despite it being “out of his control”, it still greatly diminishes my desire to watch the videos, to chat in live streams, or otherwise engage.

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So you’re saying commenters are jerks - which is out of his control - then you speculate that you “wouldn’t be surprised if he has changed for the worst”

i don’t have a horse in this race but he absolutely has the power to moderate his comment section and his community’s vibes generally, and he is responsible for that (or delegating another person to do so) whether he thinks he should be/takes responsibility for that or not. the audience a creator has is ultimately a reflection of the creator’s priorities, and if he isn’t proactive in removing shitters from his community then you really can’t blame other people for assuming he’s in with or agrees with the shitters.

Why should a creator be responsible for the voiced opinions of their fans? That standard makes no sense no matter how you slice it. A creator’s job isn’t to police their audience, it’s to provide information/entertainment.

Just because he has the power to censor people you don’t like doesn’t mean he should, or that it’s a reasonable ask. Instead of passively alienating you by not acting, censoring those people would actively alienate them. He’s much better off letting individuals take responsibility for their own comments, rather than joining any given side’s thought-police.

As soon as you create the standard that you are responsible for what your fans say and do, you’ve lost. You can immediately be held accountable for the speech of the worst of them, and good luck regulating that.

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Just because he has the power to censor people you don’t like doesn’t mean he should, or that it’s a reasonable ask. Instead of passively alienating you by not acting, censoring those people would actively alienate them. He’s much better off letting individuals take responsibility for their own comments, rather than joining any given side’s thought-police.

this is the kind of thing you say if you are a person who benefits from not being moderated and, unsurprisingly, your comment history has shit like “Parents should have a say what is being taught to their kids. LGBT values are an invasive culture change that is being pushed on kids without the interests of the parents in mind.” go away.

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Glad they’re gone. Gross beliefs fr.

You ever moderate a YouTube comments section? It’s nearly a full-time job. And it would be one thing if he were just a YouTuber, but the guy does a ton of good in the real world, for real people.

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You ever moderate a YouTube comments section? It’s nearly a full-time job.

i literally co-administrate this site seven days a week, often for hours a day. yes, i do know that. if you don’t want to do it, turn off comments. otherwise, assume the responsibility and cultivate a good community, or make peace with the assumptions people will make of you for not removing Respectable_Centrist’s comments about how Wokeness is destroying tech and how much they want queer people to shut up and not exist.

What can I say; I don’t read what random strangers say when my purpose of watching his videos is his videos. And I don’t hold him accountable for what those strangers say. I’m just focused like that. To each their own.

Besides the mentioned hating on NY, during last two elections he supported trump and republicans, bashed democrats and just leaned into that that whole saying something conspiracy related by saying “I dunno” which has been an almost dog whistle of support while trying to act open minded. I don’t believe he’s republican but his move to Texas and being anti government kinda points him in a certain direction.

Obviously that’s all fine of him to have those views. I just don’t like hearing it during a board repair or right to repair video.

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Do you have a citation on Rossman supporting Trump?

I can’t say I’ve heard him express any political opinions outside of the fairly narrow lanes of right-to-repair and regulatory abuse.

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https://youtu.be/JH8izpJknq0?t=5619

Now I know someone is going to say oh thats just one comment out of hours and he said he doesn’t like blah blah… his 2016 videos had lots of joking about trump, anti hillary, pepe etc.

Darknet Diaries. It’s more of a “stories in the web security space” kind of podcast. But I have not noticed any political leaning in the host so far.

Highly recommend it. I binged all existing episodes last year.

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I really enjoy Darknet Diaries. It is unfortunate he went to a once a month release cycle but I understand it is for a better work life cycle.

If you are a fan of Darknet Diaries I would also recommend Hacked. It has two hosts which have a good dynamic. Plus they don’t touch politics so it avoids any controversy.

I’ll put it in my backlog! Thanks!

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Yep. Darknet Diaries, Cyber, and Malicious Life are all good.

This is my favorite podcast ever. So good.

Start from some more recent episodes like around ep 60 or 70.

The very first ones, like 1 through 10, I think he was still trying to find his groove then.

Yeah, but the earlier episodes also has some good stories, mostly just less production quality

It’s been mentioned already, but I genuinely love the WAN Show. Linus and Luke work really well together, and it’s easily become my go-to podcast during my daily walks. This is coming from someone who generally doesn’t enjoy podcasts, so maybe that means something?

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If you’re a web dev who fuckin’ loves JavaScript, Syntax is a good answer. I don’t think Wes Bos or Scott Tolinski are shitbags.

Who cares?

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This is the kind of thing I’d like to have downvotes for

You don’t have downvotes? I’m using Wefwef and the downvotes are listed under the three dots to the right of the post.

You can send downvotes using 3rd party clients, but beehaw doesn’t register or track them. Hitting the button does nothing (and it’s not even present in the web ui)

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Maybe you don’t, but many do. Why bother replying if you’re insinuating you don’t?

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I’m glad you pointed this out. We need to move past the “this person said something I don’t agree with so I will never interact with them again”

Identity politics are bad and we should not be beholden to them.

People and their technical knowledge are more than their political views.

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@Recant Switching to an alt to try to talk up your original point doesn’t work when all of the other replies have already called you out.

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What are you talking about?

Is it not possible for two different people to share similar opinions?

One could say that conservatives can be very passionate about their political beliefs. If you’re listening to a podcast about technology, or any other topic for that matter, you might find it off-putting for the host to interject with their irrelevant beliefs. Obviously there are times when politics can be topical to the conversation. That usually revolves around legal cases and policy making.

Who pissed in your cereal? People have different interests.

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Please help me to understand how this can be interpreted as anything but rude and dismissive

Decipher Security for a heavy infosec focus

Technology Pill by Privacy International for something looking more at the impact of tech on society and human rights

And as other have said I do enjoy the occasional Linux unplugged!

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Love the recommendations here! Would also like tech YouTube or general content creator recommendations too since a lot of them say some really sus shit that has nothing to do with tech. Recently unsubbed from one that outright made a blatantly sexist joke complete with visuals

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Ugghh right 🥴 I really like tracketpacer on Tiktok, she’s a network engineer and does lots of memes. Senegodess Tech on YouTube does more general career videos, “day in the life” type stuff but she’s fun to listen to. Oh and Julia Evans has lots of cute zines, some of them free, explaining computer science stuff. I listened to an interview with her and you can tell how excited she is to talk about 'puters and her love for them is infectious.

The Mozilla Foundation did a tech podcast called IRL. It hasn’t updated in nearly a year, and I don’t know if it’s ever coming back, but some of their back episodes are worth listening to.

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It might be too much fluff for you, but the Vergecast is hosted by a trio of flaming liberals. I avoid the website these days, but I honestly think they do a better a job with the podcast.

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I was just reading an article on The Verge, and let me tell you, it was not pleasant. Bad site to go to on a mobile browser without adblock.

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I have listened since the time it was the Engadget podcast, then This Is My Next, then the Vergecast. Yes, it’s fluff and not deep technical info, but it’s really useful for keeping up with the overall zeitgeist of the tech industry. Also it’s often funny. It’s a nice, refreshing thing to listen to while making coffee on a Friday.

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I agree. They go from technical to policy and all points in between, and they have senses of humour… I miss hearing Deiter Bohn, but such is life.

It’s Apple focused, but Accidental Tech Podcast definitively fits the bill!

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For the lazy, from their website atp.fm:

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters. Hosted by Marco Arment, Casey Liss, and John Siracusa.

How is your Swiss German? I quite like SRF Digital, but it’s likely completely incomprehensible.

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The wan show is one

The WAN show is a great option for a one stop shop for broad tech stuff. It is often very long but they add very clear chapters to the youtube video that make it easy to jump to the stuff that interests you. Luke is a software developer/manager so he is fairy knowledgeable in that realm, and Linus is a very transparent CEO of a tech media company, so the coverage is actually very good between the two of them. Just dont expect in depth conversations about RHEL forks and node.js code efficiency and stuff, its very much meant to be consumed by regular tech enthusiasts and not hyper deep code monkeys.

Only issue I’d see with the WAN show is that a large chunk of it is LTT meta discussion. If you don’t watch/care about LTT that could get a little dull. Same with merch messages.

The move is to watch it with a delay of 1-2 days, so that every section will be labeled by them and/or sponsorblock.

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/whispers elteeteestoredotcom

Another one would be that Linus has dropped his fair share of Hard Rs in the past (/s)

Will Smith and Brad Shoemaker made a tech podcast: https://techpod.content.town/

Will Smith was a co-founder of tested.com and has gone on to do things within the games industry specifically in VR. He currently works at Stray Bombay in communications.

Brad Shoemaker was a part of Gamespot, GiantBomb, and is now a part of Nextlander. He was a games journalist but now I would say Nextlander is less games journalism and more just personalities playing video games.

Ive been listening to these two for years. I highly recommend anything Brad Shoemaker-related.

Weird how people like you can’t hear an opinion if the person speaking isn’t gay.

It’s tiring hearing people discuss how myself and people like me shouldn’t have rights, so I try to avoid it.

The fact that it’s much easier to avoid bigotry by sticking to queer-created content says more about cishet people than it does about LGBTQ+ folks.

Twenty years ago, before I questioned anything about myself, I fell in a pattern of looking for queer friendly spaces when looking for nice clans inside games I played. It’s a shorthand for receptive spaces that I use even today.

Yes, but listening to tech podcasts should include talks about tech only. I won’t listen to it if it turns into non-tech related political talk even for oneliners here and there.

The old joke was “I hate when I go to Vuvuzela concert, but people starts to play soccer”. It applies into tech as well, at least for me personally.

I don’t oppose/resist peoples freedom for their self-expression on any level, but I want to enjoy tech purely free from politics simply because living avoiding politics is hard enough already. I still support Pride-people to express themselves as they want.

I’ve never heard a single person make this complaint and not also be okay with people talking a little bit about their own lives, or bring their background into what they’re talking about. People are people, and most people like to talk about their lives, or bring their own personal experiences into things.

Perhaps you’re different, but I would be surprised to find a tech podcast which includes a completely life/human-sanitized space which includes absolutely no conversation about the hosts and talking only about tech. Can you suggest one to me?

As an aside… pride-people? Is this a dutch thing?

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I’m specifically interested in the overlooked history and perspectives of women, LGBT folks, POC and disabled people in tech though. Ofc not all tech podcasts should be political, I’m just interested in those things and am having trouble finding related media. I’ve stumbled on more right-leaning stuff while browsing Spotify though. I just don’t wanna get jump scared by homophobia.

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this is only your third comment on our site and you are not making a good impression by immediately getting offended by a pretty banal ask.

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Don’t worry, alyaza. I won’t be back. I don’t like beehaw and how your mods act like children. How much of a weirdo you need to be to police my comments to make an “impression”?

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It’s right there in the sidebar.

Websites with ineffective moderation allow hate speech to proliferate and contribute to the erosion of minority rights and safe spaces. Our goal with Beehaw is to demonstrate and promote a healthier environment.

I don’t like beehaw and how your mods act like children.

This is such a classic example of projection. The mods have to step in when users act like children. They’re not the problem.

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Don’t worry, you won’t be allowed back. This comment was reported and it’s clear you’re not following our code of conduct and as of thus have been removed permanently.

It’s called moderation and without it, discussions devolve into ad hominem - as you proved.

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Try listening the next place you go.

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Believing that certain folks don’t deserve basic rights because of their identity, sexual orientation, skin color, etc. is not an opinion that’s acceptable. No one with a brain wants to hear any of that non-sense thankfully!

It’s weird how some people (who might be LGBT, a woman,BIPOC, or not bigots) don’t want to hear conservative white people spouting racist, sexist, bigoted crap …

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From OP: Are there any that are more leftist, hosted by LGBT peeps, or at least not actively bigoted ?

How is this different from: are there any podcast hosted by right wing and or racists whyte cucks, at least not openly pro gay?

People need to understand thay this attitude goes both ways and fuels these degenerate culture war dick measuring contests.

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This is not about teams, it’s about people not being ACTIVELY BIGOTED

Just…come on man. Hatred isn’t an opinion.

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People disagreeing with someone else’s politics doesn’t make them a bigot.

Left right thing is a just a circus when most of us are the bottom. But people love a good circle jerk, so here we are.

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People disagreeing with someone else’s politics doesn’t make them a bigot.

there are a very large number of ways disagreeing with someone’s politics would obviously make someone a bigot, such as “disagreeing that queer people should have the right to marry”. this is not a serious argument.

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Within two sentences, you’ve managed to say a lot of questionable stuff, which is impressive.

First of all: Being anti-LGBTQ is definitively bigotry. If you don’t wanna be called a bigot, reconsider your stance - even this backwards ass world has left you behind on that matter,for the most part.

Now, about “left” and “right”, I’m not sure what your point is. It’s precisely about how you approach classes. Even moderate, capitalist leftists, aka socdems generally support social security programs, higher taxation on the rich, tax reliefs for the working class, public education, healthcare etc- and there are plenty of countries where all that is a thing. Now, I can only assume you’re from the US, where “left” and “right” has lost all meaning, and Bernie Sanders - a moderate social democrat -is viewed as the second coming of Stalin.

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yes… provide more of your half baked politics lol

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Half-baked? This is an extremely dumbed down version. Do you have anything to say besides generalized, witty, one liners? Do you even have any idea what I’m saying? Like, bro.

Ruling class won’t let us have affordable housing, healthcare and education… And we work for all of it lol

This is you. Who’s the ruling class again?

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