I remember people saying that too. Then someone on reddit pointed out that they had moved it to the bottom quietly before the whole rexxit thing. Not sure how to interpret it being removed, added back and moved discretely. But as they say in Camp Cretaceous, “at least…” it’s in there somewhere.
I maintain the only reason Google ever shut any product down was because they weren’t able to extract useful data from it fast enough. It’s the only reason any of their products exist.
For many of the services they shut down, they accomplished what they wanted.
Sometimes, the purpose isn’t to create a shiny new product people enjoy and will pay for
Sometimes, the purpose is to create competition for a product you don’t like, make sure they fail by having a decent competing offering, and then shutting the offering down when the threat of competition has passed
I also think another aspect could be development of technolog; having a real userbase that provides real feedback and finds any issues that a bunch of QA techs can’t, and once the technology is made / knowledge is gained, scrap the service to apply the gained knowledge elsewhere.
“Google, thanks for inviting us all to the launch of perspectives! What are your goals with this new platform?”
“Perspectives? Perspectives on what? Who are you people? how did you get in here? Would you like to hear more about our new weekly meat-delivery service?”
“oh. . . . Uhm, sure. . . . Where is your product sourced from?”
Oh man, I knew there were a lot but I had no idea.
I remember when Google Wave was demo’ed to a live audience, there were audible ooohs and aaahs from the crowd. It was such a mindblowing idea 14 years ago, shame it never really got off the ground.
I’m not sure I see what they’re going for. Where are they going to get this human generated content? How are they going to keep it from being AstroTurfed or LLM?
What community is going to police it and self-moderate it? Is it going to be like Google maps reviews for places? Where there’s really no discussion just kind of shouting into the void.
Is it going to be like Amazon reviews?
The whole value of Reddit threads was that you could read them and see organic discussion a real back and forth. Evaluate the earnestness of the discussion, a post by single person with no feedback it’s not super helpful even on Reddit. Honestly the best results came when there is disagreement in the conversation, forcing the subject matter experts to come out from the corners and stop lurking and contribute.
This sounds like they’re copying Brave Discussions, which is basically just giving a little box with only reddit results near the top.
It’s definitely not an alternative to reddit or even its own platform. It sounds like just another conditional algorithm update, but I haven’t seen it yet.
if they add support for forums I might even consider using it, but if it’s just reddit, twitter, tiktok or whatever then it’s not really all that useful
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Ah yes, cause the problem by promoting SEO websites with machine generated content, then sell the solution! Splendid!
Microsoft Antivirus, second generation.
Google, a company you can trust. A company that thought the phrase ‘Don’t be evil’ didn’t fit anymore.
It’s still in their code of conduct, though. Got moved to the bottom.
Ahh ok that makes me feel better
I remember when they took it off. They probably brought it back because it was giving them a bad image.
They never took it off. That was an Internet meme. They just never did.
You’re right, I checked here, and they always moved the line. Feels strange to see how our memories can trick us.
I remember people saying that too. Then someone on reddit pointed out that they had moved it to the bottom quietly before the whole rexxit thing. Not sure how to interpret it being removed, added back and moved discretely. But as they say in Camp Cretaceous, “at least…” it’s in there somewhere.
I looked for more info, and you’re right. Strange, because I can remember it clearly. Was I a victim of the mandela effect?
Nah, no Mandela effect here. Just businesses being sneaky about appearing honest.
Well yeah, if they were truly going to follow the “don’t be evil” motto they’d have to give up capitalism, which ain’t gonna happen.
A newer way to harvest data for them, I’m sure.
I maintain the only reason Google ever shut any product down was because they weren’t able to extract useful data from it fast enough. It’s the only reason any of their products exist.
Disagree
For many of the services they shut down, they accomplished what they wanted.
Sometimes, the purpose isn’t to create a shiny new product people enjoy and will pay for
Sometimes, the purpose is to create competition for a product you don’t like, make sure they fail by having a decent competing offering, and then shutting the offering down when the threat of competition has passed
Google + being a prime example? /s
I also think another aspect could be development of technolog; having a real userbase that provides real feedback and finds any issues that a bunch of QA techs can’t, and once the technology is made / knowledge is gained, scrap the service to apply the gained knowledge elsewhere.
Or they’re just really inept. :P
How long until Google gives up and shuts it down? Place yer bets!!!
I give it 7 months.
killedbygoogle.com
I knew this was going to be the top comment and I’m hereffor it!
I bet 3 upvotes and one Mastodon follow, it’s killed off in less then 5 years
I’ll be your third upvote. For less than 3.
I give it a year before it’s shut down. This is Google, after all.
Start the clock. https://gcemetery.co/google-product-lifespan/
!remindme 1 yr
oh wait
I wonder if bots like that are possible in the fediverse?
I believe they 100% are but i have no idea how the Lemmy or Kbin APIs are
@artisanrox @lostwonder @Thalestr Well someone needs to build this ASAP. I miss it.
Man, deleting my reminders felt almost as final as deleting the account itself
It’ll be folded into some sort of AI thingy within a year, for sure.
AI is this year’s blockchain.
This will be saving you typing in +reddit +stackspace on searches. Still the same results.
Wish they’d include a -pinterest option.
-site:pinterest.*seems to work for me.If people are looking for alternatives that won’t be shut down, you… recommend they look to Google!? Ahahahahaha!
gigglesnort
“Google, thanks for inviting us all to the launch of perspectives! What are your goals with this new platform?”
“Perspectives? Perspectives on what? Who are you people? how did you get in here? Would you like to hear more about our new weekly meat-delivery service?”
“oh. . . . Uhm, sure. . . . Where is your product sourced from?”
“where is what sourced from?”
Seriously, the graveyard is pretty extensive: https://killedbygoogle.com/
I’m still bitter that they killed Inbox. It was superior to Gmail in every way.
It really was. I miss inbox.
Oh man, I knew there were a lot but I had no idea.
I remember when Google Wave was demo’ed to a live audience, there were audible ooohs and aaahs from the crowd. It was such a mindblowing idea 14 years ago, shame it never really got off the ground.
Two things killed it.
First, it was a slow resource hog. Second, it was productivity software at a time when work IM was hard to get people to use.
Google wave wasn’t really killed. It’s functionality is pretty much built into google docs.
And they won’t stop until they kill killedbygoogle by having it run out of storage space.
Guys we swear this time is different. We are totally going to stick with it
It’s real this time time, gais, promisssss
I don’t think this feature will be anything like reddit or lemmy. But I do see what they are going for.
Unless they have something like AI powered moderation, it will turn into a shit show really quickly.
I’m not sure I see what they’re going for. Where are they going to get this human generated content? How are they going to keep it from being AstroTurfed or LLM?
What community is going to police it and self-moderate it? Is it going to be like Google maps reviews for places? Where there’s really no discussion just kind of shouting into the void.
Is it going to be like Amazon reviews?
The whole value of Reddit threads was that you could read them and see organic discussion a real back and forth. Evaluate the earnestness of the discussion, a post by single person with no feedback it’s not super helpful even on Reddit. Honestly the best results came when there is disagreement in the conversation, forcing the subject matter experts to come out from the corners and stop lurking and contribute.
… And they killed it. It’s dead.
Seems more like an alternative to TikTok no?
Invent the problem, then sell the solution.
Just fix search that you intentionally broke so that it returns all relevant results, inhumane cowards.
This sounds like they’re copying Brave Discussions, which is basically just giving a little box with only reddit results near the top.
It’s definitely not an alternative to reddit or even its own platform. It sounds like just another conditional algorithm update, but I haven’t seen it yet.
Great, now 4chan can turn search results racist too.
Great, now 4chan can turn search results racist too.
Haha, wonder what Google will do.
if they add support for forums I might even consider using it, but if it’s just reddit, twitter, tiktok or whatever then it’s not really all that useful