To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)
Yeah that seems like a bit of a stretch. That meme read to me like “Oh, you’re having problems with the DRM? I don’t have that problem,” not “Hey guys, here’s the GOG installer for X game.”
Otherwise, why would the other people in the group chat not like the vibe?
It’s because the original image macro that this is based on was about piracy, saying something along the lines of “I bring a certain ‘just torrent it’ vibe to the conversion that the riaa just doesn’t like.”
Their reuse of the macro is indirectly an answer or a continuation of it that can be seen as acknowledging the original message.
Like, maybe if the final bit was saying the friends without accounts did like it there might be something there, but simply acknowledging DRM free I’m not seeing it
Selling only DRM-free games has always be GOG’s whole thing (well, that and selling oldies compatible with modern OS), it’s weird that this meme specifically would be considered “aknowledging piracy”
Everything nowadays that attempts to give back a little autonomy or freedom to the user is called piracy.
As long as an app could theoretically be used for piracy, even if it was made to circumvent toxic behavior of users’ bought and paid for products, then it must be properly labelled as piracy and taken down.
I like GoG because I can download an executable and load it into wine, which is less easy with steam for Mac. Though they make that harder these days than they used to.
I know the Mac isn’t ideal for gaming but I don’t want to buy a whole other computer and have to deal with KVM and monitor switching just to play games that were released in 2004.
To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)
Isn’t it great how twenty six people in a community about privacy downvoted your reasonable comment. Can’t wait or them to downvote this one too. We’re not in this group to jeer piracy and villainize it.
I saw a really cool concept for “Anti piracy” some time ago. It works by having a lot of little achievements which represent you progress. So each time you start the game it checks for which achievements you have and the loads your progress according to your achievements.
Performance isn’t the only issue. This system would also not let you play offline, without being logged in and you couldn’t have mutliple saves or replay the game.
So, basically cloud saves with extra steps, except you only get a single save and can’t replay the game? Sounds even worse than current solutions, honestly
GOG is always my first choice to buy games.
It’s a bit frustrating that you have to dive into the forum and check whether the developers actually maintain their GOG release properly before buying though.
The way I see it, if you’ve bought a game from GOG you’ve already paid, so no one can truthfully say in good faith that subsequently grabbing a cracked version of the Steam release is a lost sale.
Right, but a store with DRM can effectively prevent me from playing the games, that’s where my ownership effectively ends.
With GOG, there’s no DRM. So in all senses except some weird philosophical context, I do own the game. I paid money and received a file(s) that I can relocate, make backups of, burn to disc, archive, etc.
You could argue that if they revoke the license and I continue using the file that I have on my computer, that I’m now committing piracy, but that’s getting into a big technicality
But DRM-free means there’s no mechanism to revoke that license. Which is really how it should be because entities shouldn’t be able to benefit from a sale and then retract their side of the deal and keep the money just because they made up some terms that say they can do that.
does it matter if that license is only needed to download the game? once you have it downloaded, it doesn’t matter if the license gets revoked (it only grants you the ability to download the game, and use galaxy online/social features such as achievements and multiplayer)
Just type any game title to the torrent tracker and you’ll find you this is only for the first crack.
After game is cracked by just one person, everybody can pirate it just like if there was no DRM.
DRM-free is exactly the reason I buy on GOG and would never pirate a game that exists on GOG.
Not all DRM is the same. Up until a week or so ago when they removed it, I couldn’t pirate Lies of P because it used Denovu. Pretty hard to pirate things nobody has cracked.
No. Only a few people in the world are capable/dedicated to breaking copy protection. Everyone else just downloads already pirated software, no matter how hard it was to break. It’s just as easy.
If I wanted to play GTA V (which I acquired legally twice) I would just look for a pirated copy. The legal one keeps updating every few days with huge downloads, requires you to download some crappy launcher, the launcher also needs to update, you need to login you need internet connection, etc, etc. It’s a terrible hassle and made me abandon the game mid-story.
Couldn’t be more right. I went 100% on GoG after not being able to play the Steam games I wanted to play during an internet outage because of dumb always online requirement.
DRM punishes paying customers. DRM free is the best choice for anyone who enjoys games, and supporting the devs is the best way to get more games you enjoy.
DRM free isn’t pro-piracy it is pro-consumer.
I couldn’t give a shit what pirates are doing. I pay for my games and I don’t want DRM ruining my experience.
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Good guy GOG wants you to actually own your own games, forever.
Then why do their ToS say they only give you a revocable license when you “”““buy””“” a game?
how is this acknowledging piracy ?
To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)
My friend, I regret to inform you that you are misunderstanding the meme
Yeah that seems like a bit of a stretch. That meme read to me like “Oh, you’re having problems with the DRM? I don’t have that problem,” not “Hey guys, here’s the GOG installer for X game.”
Otherwise, why would the other people in the group chat not like the vibe?
It’s because the original image macro that this is based on was about piracy, saying something along the lines of “I bring a certain ‘just torrent it’ vibe to the conversion that the riaa just doesn’t like.”
Their reuse of the macro is indirectly an answer or a continuation of it that can be seen as acknowledging the original message.
I guess they don’t realize GOG is DRM free as part of their business model?
Probably because they think DRM=anti pirate and not “You don’t actually own this”
Like, maybe if the final bit was saying the friends without accounts did like it there might be something there, but simply acknowledging DRM free I’m not seeing it
Selling only DRM-free games has always be GOG’s whole thing (well, that and selling oldies compatible with modern OS), it’s weird that this meme specifically would be considered “aknowledging piracy”
Everything nowadays that attempts to give back a little autonomy or freedom to the user is called piracy.
As long as an app could theoretically be used for piracy, even if it was made to circumvent toxic behavior of users’ bought and paid for products, then it must be properly labelled as piracy and taken down.
I’ll better stop before this becomes a rant.
I like GoG because I can download an executable and load it into wine, which is less easy with steam for Mac. Though they make that harder these days than they used to.
I know the Mac isn’t ideal for gaming but I don’t want to buy a whole other computer and have to deal with KVM and monitor switching just to play games that were released in 2004.
On Linux I install lutris, log into gog from there, and use that. It’s nice.
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Heroic Games Launcher is great for GOG. I use it on all 3 to get my games running.
Meme doesn’t make sense in this context, but do love me some GOG.
To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)
Isn’t it great how twenty six people in a community about privacy downvoted your reasonable comment. Can’t wait or them to downvote this one too. We’re not in this group to jeer piracy and villainize it.
We’re here to celebrate it!
They’re disagreeing with his interpretation of the meme. It’s really not a big deal!
The down arrow here is nakedly a “I disagree” button, you really don’t have to take it as an indictment.
Totally. Thanks.
I’m not exactly acclimatized to the new environment.
Have you seen LessWrong.com ‘s voting? They have, essentially, “good/bad comment” & “I agree/disagree” buttons.
Wouldn’t the last part need to say “really do like” instead if that’s what it was about?
Wtf is your problem copy and pasting your comment everywhere? No one keeps asking for your opinion on each comment.
And even if they did, his take doesn’t even make sense 🤦
Might be a federation glitch
Seen it happen before where someone replies the same comment to a bunch of seemingly unrelated parent comments
Or man is tweaking, who knows
Por que no los dos? 🤷
OP rocks!
ALL ANTI-CHEAT IS SPYWARE.
ALL DRM IS THEFT.
*malware
… also a violation of the CFAA
spyware is a subset of malware
yup
I saw a really cool concept for “Anti piracy” some time ago. It works by having a lot of little achievements which represent you progress. So each time you start the game it checks for which achievements you have and the loads your progress according to your achievements.
That’s just a different flavour of DRM.
It doesn’t affect the performance. It may increase the loading time a bit, but it doesn’t affect anything else.
Performance isn’t the only issue. This system would also not let you play offline, without being logged in and you couldn’t have mutliple saves or replay the game.
So, basically cloud saves with extra steps, except you only get a single save and can’t replay the game? Sounds even worse than current solutions, honestly
GOG doesn’t really have pirated games or any of that gray market nonsense. It is on the same level as steam in terms of it being a first party seller
if i own a piece of software i should have the right to put that software on a usb and lend it to a friend for the weekend or someshit
Gog tries but its only drm free till its not.
Looking at you Cult of the lamb!
iirc the COTL issue was caused by a miscommunication between the dev team, publisher and gog itself
pretty sure it has long been fixed
What happened?
Epic is the same
No.
Drm-free isn’t piracy
GOG is always my first choice to buy games.
It’s a bit frustrating that you have to dive into the forum and check whether the developers actually maintain their GOG release properly before buying though.
The way I see it, if you’ve bought a game from GOG you’ve already paid, so no one can truthfully say in good faith that subsequently grabbing a cracked version of the Steam release is a lost sale.
What does good faith have to do with anything the big companies claim?
Not a damn thing.
I own and buy games from GOG. Especially if its a game i like. That way its actually mine. I hope they never change.
It’s not yours. You buy a revocable license. Read their TOS.
How are they going to take the file off my computer?
Same as every other store with DRM: they won’t. Still doesn’t mean you own your games.
Right, but a store with DRM can effectively prevent me from playing the games, that’s where my ownership effectively ends.
With GOG, there’s no DRM. So in all senses except some weird philosophical context, I do own the game. I paid money and received a file(s) that I can relocate, make backups of, burn to disc, archive, etc.
You could argue that if they revoke the license and I continue using the file that I have on my computer, that I’m now committing piracy, but that’s getting into a big technicality
Mr. GOG comes to your house and destroys the drive you’re storing the game on
Gog has no drm. So effectively who cares.
But DRM-free means there’s no mechanism to revoke that license. Which is really how it should be because entities shouldn’t be able to benefit from a sale and then retract their side of the deal and keep the money just because they made up some terms that say they can do that.
does it matter if that license is only needed to download the game? once you have it downloaded, it doesn’t matter if the license gets revoked (it only grants you the ability to download the game, and use galaxy online/social features such as achievements and multiplayer)
OP doesn’t understand the difference between piracy and drm-free.
But hey, looks like the advertising is working on you to promote GOG so good on them for a successful tweet.
drm makes it a lot harder to pirate
DRM often encourages piracy
Just type any game title to the torrent tracker and you’ll find you this is only for the first crack. After game is cracked by just one person, everybody can pirate it just like if there was no DRM.
DRM-free is exactly the reason I buy on GOG and would never pirate a game that exists on GOG.
Rip crackwatch
Not all DRM is the same. Up until a week or so ago when they removed it, I couldn’t pirate Lies of P because it used Denovu. Pretty hard to pirate things nobody has cracked.
No. Only a few people in the world are capable/dedicated to breaking copy protection. Everyone else just downloads already pirated software, no matter how hard it was to break. It’s just as easy.
If I wanted to play GTA V (which I acquired legally twice) I would just look for a pirated copy. The legal one keeps updating every few days with huge downloads, requires you to download some crappy launcher, the launcher also needs to update, you need to login you need internet connection, etc, etc. It’s a terrible hassle and made me abandon the game mid-story.
Aggressive DRM mostly punishes paying customers. The game will probably be cracked anyways.
Couldn’t be more right. I went 100% on GoG after not being able to play the Steam games I wanted to play during an internet outage because of dumb always online requirement.
DRM punishes paying customers. DRM free is the best choice for anyone who enjoys games, and supporting the devs is the best way to get more games you enjoy.
DRM free isn’t pro-piracy it is pro-consumer.
I couldn’t give a shit what pirates are doing. I pay for my games and I don’t want DRM ruining my experience.
No, it does not.
if there is one thing I love, it’s corporations trying to ‘meme’. Nothing makes me unfollow or block an account faster.
When?