Those aren’t pirated copies, those are… lawfully encoded… 4k bluray rips… I made myself… to back up the uh, lawful copies I purchased at MSRP! That’s right!
Which is honestly their job, their entire corporate existence! My engineer friend would get mad at all the ISPs for every single thing they did that was not related to the service. “Why are they spending time and money lobbying!?” “Why are they paying to put apps on my phone!?” “Why are they treating different types of content differently, their entire purpose is to be a pipe of connectivity!” And you know what? He’s right…
Yeah lol. When I we first got wired internet at home (about 15 years ago), the speeds weren’t good. It averaged around 120 KBPS for browsing the internet. But the guy installing the connection told me that torrents went up to 10 MBPS easily, and he wasn’t lying. Before that, I didn’t understand that torrent worked in a fundamentally different way compared to direct downloads.
It was in India. I won’t be surprised if the situation is still similar. (I mean the attitude towards piracy. The speeds are pretty good nowadays.)
Too bad subtitles don’t work on Jellyfin
Edit: after going to Jellyfin technical support on discord I think I have it mostly working, I don’t know. Seems like I’ll be transcoding everything.
I have to install a third party program that runs on a schedule and extracts embedded subtitles? Why should I have to do that?
Nobody can actually post a solution? I have to go to discord as suggested by one person here? Lots of down votes, no information available despite countless people saying subtitles don’t work and the best excuse is that Jellyfin devs inherited a mess.
I’ve worked in IT administration for over 20 years.
Downvote this too, just pretend everything works for everybody. Pretend if it doesn’t work, it’s because end users can’t fix a broken media server.
Why don’t you post the solution publicly so people know how to get subtitles working?
Here’s a few of the people who posted about subtitles not working. This is just page 1 and 2 from what looks like hundreds of posts. No solutions in any of these pages.
Why don’t you post the solution publicly so people know how to get subtitles working?
I am not asking you to DM me. My request is to go to support in Jellyfin discord where we can discuss the issue. I agree jellyfin is not free from issue. But when you say “too bad subtitles don’t work” , it’s leaves the rest of us confused. The issues you listed down, might be true in specific cases for example AAS subtitles not rendering correctly in VLC on Android TV. You see how specific the issue is ? In your case , we don’t know what’s up.
Someone wanting to try jellyfin (who is not affected by your issue) would shy away from even trying.
In any case, I had no intention to accuse you or offend you in any way. I apologise if I came out strong.
It’s missing from many players. Infuse is missing it too, which I have to use because Plex on tvOS is TERRIBLE. How does everyone look at movies then? Scroll through them alphabetically? I miss the play random button too, they took that away a year or two ago.
The upcoming Jellyfin Roku release has a quick method to play a random item from each of your libraries, but we don’t have random sorting so you can see the list.
My current workaround for that is adding whatever I want to shuffle into a playlist. I have one with some sci-fi shows in it that I regularly use. Smart collections is my most missed feature from Plex.
edit: nvm, doesn’t sound like it would help your use case, read through it too quick first time round
Have never been able to get into playlists. I don’t have time to sit down and scroll through my thousands of movies to pick individual ones out for a certain mood. I did that with music back in the 00s, but I had a considerably larger amount of free time on my hands back then. Should probably look into them a bit more.
It needs a good Xbox app for me to switch. I could deal with dlna, but my wife and daughter need the easier interface plex has, and unless I can at least partially match that I can’t switch.
Disney plus has a decent bit of solid content. By saying this you don’t sound edgy and cool like you think you do, you sound dated. It’s okay to accept that Disney makes decent content, they have enough money to. It’s also okay to not like their content. But pretending you’re an ancient ass ostrich with your head in the sand is just cringe.
Why do people think people/me are trying to sound edgy because they don’t understand Disney stuff, lol. Is that what this world has come to…? That’s what people stand for these days…? Disney?
Man the world’s fucked up these days if you think Disney is a part of everyone’s life… That’s really fucked up on a human scale.
Why not stand up for something real… Like people getting hurt…? So sick of seeing privileged people not realizing there’s literally an entire world outside of their pop lifestyle.
Disney hasn’t done anything culturally significant in a long ass time. It’s been at least a decade of acquiring mature IPs and grinding them into dust for profit, or remaking shittier live versions of their classic animations. They sucked the magic out of Pixar films in recent years as well.
How the fuck have you managed to both misunderstand and know so little about Disney+ with the multiple shows that have been major hits? I’m gonna take a guess and say you’re trolling. The multuple star wars and marvel shows that have been talked about absolutely everywhere, it would be incredibly hard to miss any of that.
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Dude’s obviously mentally unstable and probably a pedophile. It takes a special type of person to shoehorn “child sex trafficking” and multiple references of “jerking off” into a discussion about media server software.
For instance I hunt criminals… Way more useful to society than watching Disney plus
You’re so hardcore. I wish I was like you. /s
No, you don’t hunt criminals. You pretend to do it, on some random social media network called lemmy.
I myself also don’t like Marvel, most of Star Wars and the other stuff Disney is pumping out. But what I like even less are people on the internet pretending that they are worth more than others because they watched some crime footage on YouTube.
Why don’t you get back to topic, which incidentally is Jellyfin and not the content on Disney+? Do you really have nothing of worth to add?
not gonna lie, i enjoyed Loki… not much tbh… but it was nice to watch while nothing else to do. And i could only enjoy it because i pirated it. Watching it, knowing i paid for it… would’ve made me angry
The first season was fine, this last season was a waste of time. Each episode amounts to nothing and there is sooo much repetition that I was thrown back to Heroes season 2 during the NBC writers strikes.
I don’t know if S2 of Loki was the way it is because it was trying to change Kang or because it was trying to be impressive. As of now, it seems like the latter.
All that said, S2 of Loki was “technically fine”, the acting was decent-good, the visuals weren’t terrible for 90-95% of it, good soundtrack. It was just the premise and how it was written that fell flat for my friend and I, and we’re both just kind of bewildered by the positive reception to it. Like, is the bar that low for people? Were we expecting too much? Is Disney just astroturfing? maybe a little of all 3. But holy heck, compared to other shows like Gen V and Invincible coming out each week we are so hype and sad about those episodes ending and we watch Loki and go… “that was it? ok…”
I did like the ending, though. Pretty much the only part of the show that wasn’t sci-fi technobabble and actually amounted to something and a smidge of character development. Even still, it was only okay I guess.
Not at all, I’m far from a die-hard marvel fan and I’ve really enjoyed several of the recent marvel shows. And the multiple star wars shows are the best star wars things since the original trilogy. Lots of stuff other than that too.
I have a hard time believing anyone has sene ir heard of any of that so little like you guys have, I’ve never had Disney+ (I only download) and use adblockers etc and don’t have any friends that are marvel/Disney fanatics and I still don’t have to do anything to be aware of most of the stuff they release.
Add my hat to the “wtf does Disney make anymore?” club. I’ve never watched any SW, anything Marvel, I haven’t seen a Disney movie since VHS was the standard. I have friends who are very much into Marvel movies and even then I couldn’t tell you anything about any of the films, I have absolutely zero interest (there’s a guy with a circle shield with a star on it, I think?).
Hell, the only content I consume is stuff I find out about organically on my own; I’ve been enjoying my anti-advertising bubble for near two decades. I didn’t even know about a couple of these ‘big name’ studios running streaming services until a show I was actually interested in slid across my radar, and I’m like ‘the fuck, Paramount is doing this now?’. Disney I found out because people were bitching about yet another streaming service, otherwise I’d still be in the dark.
I grew up in peak Disney content time (90-00, everyone knew about the Disney Channel), and other than a handful of VHS films and Mickey Mouse, they might as well not exist to me. I’m sure there is a ton of stuff like that, where I just have no interest and with the lack of advertising I completely skate on by, none the wiser.
Isn’t it wild that people just assume everyone panders to pop culture?
It’s pretty dark when you think about it. Like it brings a wave of hopelessness over me.
Thanks for your balanced minded comment. God knows I can speak like that…
I haven’t listened to American pop music for over 15 years… Pretty much the same for any media. That stuff never interested me at all. Most of the people I’m friends with don’t mess around with it either.
…but apparently some people think it’s an integral part of life, lol. That’s just mind blowing.
Disney has acquired Marvel over a decade ago (14 years). They are closer to producing 2 decades of Marvel content (6 years from now) than they are from the date of the initial merger in 2009.
The only way I come across new releases/films are from YouTube recommendations of clips/trailers. And even that stops when the Piped instance where I’m on works properly for me.
It’s kind of nice but I’ll have to admit that YouTube knows me so well that it’s recommendations are something I actually enjoy. I came to know about the Loki series from trailers on YouTube
I’m aware of it, I just think the content is terrible. Excluding Loki season 1 and Andor, I guess. But even with those two I’m just so fed up with their franchises, I don’t think I’m gonna watch more of it.
Jellyfin works great in an all Jellyfin environment. It’s poor integration with Chromecast ultimately kept me off the platform. But that’s on me for letting Google make things too easy.
I will give Jellyfin further credit, that Finamp is really well designed for music use, and it kept me running the server in parallel with other media servers for quite a while.
I use it on my Chromecast constantly. I have had subtitle sync problems with some media, but that is literally on every single jellyfin app platform I have tried.
You can use jellyfin to manage your Kodi media which is how I use it. I get the customizability of Kodi with the seamless syncing between devices of jellyfin.
Jellyfin is on the LG OS store, so if your home theater has an LG TV, it’s phenomenal. I can’t recommend getting the high end LG TVs enough if you’re self hosting. Between Swiftfin on an iPad if you’re quietly in bed, or LG in the home theater, they’re all native platform apps and slay. No need from browser otherwise.
The LG app is jellyfin TV, right? It gives me issues with some formats, the video player is kinda crap honestly, if you try to forward or go back in the video it freezes for some seconds, zero buffering, and the UI is kinda ugly. I use another video payer as a proxy and that solves the ui and some formats, but it still complain on some others and the buffering issue is still there for some reason.
This is quite weird since the android app, which supposedly is just the Web app plugged in through react native, works flawlessly. Instead of adding tv controls to that app they decided to create a new one and it’s really not the best idea.
I hate to say it but this doesn’t happen with emby, the UI is similar but I’m able to see all the formats I own and there’s no issue with forwarding.
There are still problems. The mobile app recently got loads better but still has some pretty major issues with subtitles, showing that subtitles either are barely tested, or the dev simply doesn’t have the resources required or finished the app in a better way. Right now you cannot watch two episodes of a show in a row over Chromecast with subtitles without the last subtitles of the previous show frozen in screen and the new subtitles being display above those. Gotta disconnect Chromecast, shutdown the app, restart everything. This is super annoying but still light-years better than the previous mobiel app that would basically require a reinstall after each episode.
There are many other issues too, scrubbing is much better again, but still problematic and tents to freeze, requiring restarting everything.
Jellyfin is awesome but I can’t really let my wife use it, as she doesn’t have the computer patience that I have.
Oh that is an extremely different experience that what I’m having! Chromecast works fine for me and i never have to restart anything and no problems with scrubbing either, just a bit slow on shows with a lot of episodes (300+). I have given my friends access to my server and most of them are using it just fine (sure with some issue now and then, as you said its not perfect). And in iOS with the alternative Swiftfin client the experience feels phenomenal!!
Yes! Usually the ones that come with the media are fine for me but i also have the open subtitles plugin to download extra ones in my language. There are no problems 98% of the time and the other 2% its just that they won’t load and I just have to select/download different ones.
I don’t have this issue with Jellyfin on my Chromecast at all.
Sometimes it’ll not “remember” which sub track I had selected when going to the next episode and I have to re-select it, or occasionally it won’t properly burn in the subtitles and I have to back out and restart the episode, but I never get them “stuck” like that.
I’d recommend trying to change the default player, the player is actually where I find most of the issues arise with subtitles. Jellyfin ships with LibVLC and ExoPlayer on Chromecast, but only uses one by default. I have it set to ask me which player to use for each show, since the subtitles for some of my shows work in one player but not the other.
Also are you using the Chromecast app for Jellyfin or are you casting to the Chromecast through the Jellyfin mobile app? (Not sure if the latter is possible, but I can see that causing weird behavior)
There’s a dedicated app you can install on your Chromecast, then connect to your server the same way you connect on your phone. Works great for me as long as I select the right player
My biggest issue with Jellyfin is the downloads. I hate not being able to downscale or compress files. Its really the main reason I still leave Plex up in conjunction to it. Though I hope to be able to get rid of Plex entirely in the future, Jellyfin just needs more time.
I’m sticking with Plex for now too. Although there are some grating, persistent issues in basic use, it usually just works.
Swear the UI gets laggier on the TV by the day, Jellyfin was jarring to me how snappy it was in comparison.
I switched recently from Plex to jellyfin because Plex implemented stuff I do not need nor want, and it was full of bugs. Jellyfin works way better for me then Plex did.
Yes generally, but it can be very cheap. Some places sell block accounts which let you pay a one time fee for a set amount of data. Black Friday deals are coming up, and you an usually get amazing deals (1TB for under $5, able to be purchased multiple times, or subscriptions which work out to a couple dollars/euros a month).
The other thing you’d need is an indexer. Some are free, but for the best experience you’d want to pay for acess to a private indexer. Usually a few bucks as well, almost all of the big ones run sales this time of the year.
For subtitles: there are several solutions. Jellyfin (and Plex) support finding subtitles that you either download with a tool like Bazarr, or via Jellyfin/Plex’s own interface. Bazarr auto downloads them based on your parameters you give it though.
I usually try qbittorrent + plug-ins (1337x and others) with that you can search for stuff directly from the torrent client which is great. If it’s not there I’ll usually look up on btdig or similar torrent indexers, after that, I’ll send the files to my server via FTP.
keep both, sometimes jwllyfin doesn’t like streaming one kind of hdr or another and Plex will stream that. rarely can be the other way around.
I have both using the same library, if one fails I try the other one.
For some reason, my Plex can’t tell the difference between the episodes and seasons. Also 4k video it messes with the colors. So far Jellyfin has been pretty good.
Pros: Super easy for others to access, you just give them the address.
Cons: Not free. (Oracle free tier might work, but it’s unreliable.) But there are cheap VPSs as low as $12/yr that work pretty well. Also, it’s a bit harder to setup since you’ll need to create a VPN tunnel between your local machine and the VPS.
Using tailscale or zeroties:
Pros: Free, and easier to setup than a VPS.
Cons: People need to install extra apps to access your server.
By port forwarding:
Pros: Super easy to setup, just need to forward the ports through your router.
Cons: You’re opening a port to the internet, which is less than ideal. Also, it won’t work if you’re behind a NAT.
I have a VPS from RackNerd for something like $11.5/yr. You can check some offers from them here.
To be clear, it probably won’t work well as a Jellyfin server since the storage and CPU capabilities aren’t great. But it’s pretty good as a relay, which is what I described above. I have a local machine, and I use the VPS to relay the connection to the open internet.
I had a question: in the $12/year plan from Racknerd, is the deal tied to a specific instance which you can spin up for that much money? Or can I just shut it down and switch it on the next day without extra charges?
I’m trying to find an API to use with Racknerd (SolusVM, but their documentation is a bit confusing for me) to be able to pull up VMs on demand. I basically want a new IP for my VM everyday, however requesting a new IP from Racknerd incurs fees, or so I have heard.
Do not expose Jellyfin to the general Internet. They have security issues, I would not trust that (no cloudflare does not save you by default).
There are basically two ways: VPN, or authenticated reverse proxy. VPN is probably the easiest to setup and the most flexible, but it’s a bit of a pita to use.
Authenticated reverse proxy will break apps, but the web app will work (and you can setup your reverse proxy to allow specific user agents from the VPN to bypass it, allowing apps on the VPN to work). I currently do this so I can look at metadata on my phone without a VPN setup.
If you have good home upload and want to host at home, a simple reverse proxy on the vps provider of your choice does the trick. I host for a large group of friends and family and it all proxies through haproxy running on digitalocean.
You don’t even need the vps unless you’re behind cgnat
Though you should never expose Jellyfin to the Internet, they have had and continue to have major security problems
It’s easy af, just look up Jellyfin server guide. Basically it’s just forwarding a few ports and setting up usernames/passwords for them and you’re good to go
A slightly more complicated setup would be to host Jellyfin on one’s server at home and run a VPN client to a VPS which would have the necessary ports forwarded and routing configured. This way the people who know the right credentials can log in (assuming SSO) and the hoster doesn’t have to open their own port
I personally use GL.iNet routers. Basically you create VPN tunnels between a WG(WireGuard) server hosted on one router, and WG clients hosted on another GL.iNet router or a device that supports the WG app (PC and mobile afaik). The router using the WG server is facing WAN so no need to port forward and you can use it to connect to your jellyfin server as well as RDP or SSH into your server. The WG clients are simple, just need to be connected to the Internet. The tunnels bandwidth is based on your ISP’s upload speed(fiber is great, with coax good luck streaming 4k) where the WG server is located. You can use WG without the router too, but I’ll just speak to my experience.
cloudflare dns mapping my domain to an oracle cloud vm.
2)oracle always free tier, 1 core amd vm, with apache reverse proxy. I also have tailscale running on this machine. You have to setup the networking rules in the oci networking area, and setup ufw/iptables as well. So then jellyfin.whatever gets mapped to tailscale_ip:jellyfin_port at home.
My server at home with tailscale as well so it has its own ip, but you can expose routes and use the same internal ip. Jellyfin server runs here. There is a dedicated user with appropriate access to my nas aswell.
This server has a vm on it that runs prowlarr/sonarr/radarr/lidarr and qbittorrent. I have an airvpn account running here with a killswitch, and also qbittorent is only allowed to use the eddie interface. I port forwarded a dedicated port on the airvpn site and told qbittorrent to use that.
So me, my partner, parnets, and friends when outside my network can go to jellyfin.domain.whatever and login to my jellyfin. No ports open to the internet except 80/443 on the reverse proxy, and no ips to remember. That will give you some things to google to get started to replicate a similar setup for your needs.
Okay , for anyone who can advise a noob like me.i don’t want NAS, of fancy connections and switches and gears. All I want is to get SSD or HDD , an tore t client to download ahem " iso"s and then I open my TV/comouert and voilà it’s there, what is easy and simplest way to do it ?.
I got that but wondered if he knew what an NAS can be. It doesn’t need to be complicated but you are right: he can just add a bunch of HDDs to his current PC and install the necessary server apps. But I doubt someone who doesn’t want to bother with an added NAS has a PC that can host a bunch of extra SATA drives.
I know what I’m doing, and I don’t want a NAS. I have a 4Tb M.2 as my boot & games drive, and 2x 14TB HDD for Media. I have Plex installed and it’s great.
Most people don’t need a NAS. Unless you’re running a full network setup like Linus, a NAS isn’t needed.
I can watch stuff on my PC, or I can cast to the living room TV, while the missus casts to the bedroom PC.
If you have a computer, and it’s on the internet, you have NAS… Network Attached Storage… your computer is on the network, and it has storage, then it’s network attached storage. Everything else is just software controlling it all. FFS
Yes, you’re right, pedantic, but right. Thing is, we’ve been talking about having an “on-prem” NAS.
There’s really not any need to have a go at me, I’m just trying to help some dude who doesn’t want to spend an extra 300 quid on a NAS box, setup the software and have to play with raid.
As if any of that is more complicated than running your off the shelf Windows computer… at about the same cost… because, ultimately, they’re the same thing… an operating system, running one or more storage drives, plugged into a network. If that is too complex to wrap one’s mind around… well… shrugs
Unless you’re running a full network setup like Linus
I’m not sure I understand what that means but yes, a NAS is not indispensable, but it’s a great convenience. Pre-NAS that’s how I rolled until I didn’t want to have to run my full-powered gaming PC all the time.
No no, I can read the audience. He can get a pre-built NAS from the likes of Synology or QNAS with a nifty simplified web interface. They are very low maintenance and there are detailed, step-by-step guides to turn them into streaming monsters.
Can you get better hardware for less money? If you go the DIY route without a doubt. But sometimes you want a box with a bunch of drives to store your movies and serve them without a hassle and you can buy that.
My only complaint is Synology skimps too much on the RAM.
NVIDIA Shield with USB drive, and the Shield supports running Plex. Hook the Shield up to your main TV, share its content anywhere else you need it using Plex. You can even torrent directly on the Shield.
I built by own NAS for $100 and with old HDDs I had lying around. Buy used, old parts on eBay (like 10 years old) install Unraid trial. Bob’s your uncle. Then you can upgrade as you go as needed.
RAID1 is nice, but you lose 50% of your total capacity to the mirroring. I want to go with 4 drives and RAID5. I only give up 1 drive of capacity and can still lose one without losing data. If I invest money into this I don’t want to compromise too much, as it needs to last for years.
As far as I can tell a Dell small form factor and Synology idle around 15-25w and 15w respectively. Both seem to pop up to 30-45w under average load depending on what you’re doing with them. But it depends on the kind of processor you pick and additional drives will also pull more wattage.
The SFF units are limited on space. The one I have is limited to one HDD although you could put a few SATA SSDs in there and 1 nvme. The SSDs would be more expensive but lower energy use. I’ve been toying with attaching a external HDD mount to the case to see if I could add in some extra drives.
I’m not familiar with the EU/UK market, but in the US I got my used Dell for $87 from eBay. It came with 8Gb RAM and a 250Gb SSD. And it had cosmetic damage so the seller sent me a second for free :P
I think depending on how much storage you need it could be a viable alternative.
Currently I’m still using my Odroid HC4 which is probably super power efficient but limited to 2 drives and it isn’t very powerful.
The Synology units are much more user friendly out of the box though. Also I guess it depends on if you just want a NAS or if you eventually want to get into self hosting.
I don’t see anything that would be cheaper than a DS923 from Synology, which costs 570 plus the drives. The cheapest I see still costs me 1200 Euro for everything.
I didn’t even bother getting the best price. I just selected things that would work well.
Get an LSI HBA in IT Mode for another $60 to add another 8 drives.
The case was chosen because it can support 11 drives. It comes with six bays by default but you can buy packs of two bays for $15.
As is, this will cost ~$560 plus the drives and allow you to use eleven 3.5", but cheaper and better options for the PSU, mobo, SSD and memory are out there. I just selected things that would be useful for what you need and provide better hardware than a Synology.
If you don’t need as much storage, you can shave off $160 with a cheaper case and skip the HBA.
I built a Ryzen 5800X machine using a cheap AsRock motherboard and three 8tb WD Red drives for about $600 USD. I did reuse the case, power supply, and NVME cache drive from an old build. I’m running Unraid and it has been great!
That looks nice, but I am not getting anything close to the listed prices. I don’t see the board for under 400 Euro, the PSU is off by a factor of 10 and so on. Overall I don’t think I can build the PC for less than the 573 Euro a Synology DS923+ would cost me. The only upside of the custom build would be that I can attach more than 4 disks.
You can build a dedicated NAS fairly inexpensively. If you have an old computer you don’t use anymore that’s a great starting point. I was able to find a micro optiplex at my local used computer store for $99 and it runs great. I originally had it running on a raspberry pi 3 but was having power management issues and needed something a little more powerful.
I would recommend using Samba for your NAS. It’s a free SMB server that lets you access your data on all operating systems. Other Linux computers can mount samba by adding a line to /etc/fstab. On Windows you just go to file explorer and click map network drive.
You could always hop over to https://frame.work and pick up a refurbished Intel mainboard plus an enclosure (or 3D print your own using their plans). You’d just need to get some RAM and a small SSD to run an OS like TrueNAS and you’d be good to go for probably under USD $600.
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me being simple man, just searching ‘what i want’ + streaming keyword
Just use Stremio
I prefer self-hosting my media. I’m mostly done with streaming services of any kind.
Streamio is basically a torrent client+video player. Way different from any streaming service
The only issue with stremio is that there isn’t enough non English language content available on public trackers
+1
But with torrentio
Not to be disrespectful but you can skip to 5:32 if you don’t need to justify piracy to yourself.
Those aren’t pirated copies, those are… lawfully encoded… 4k bluray rips… I made myself… to back up the uh, lawful copies I purchased at MSRP! That’s right!
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Which is honestly their job, their entire corporate existence! My engineer friend would get mad at all the ISPs for every single thing they did that was not related to the service. “Why are they spending time and money lobbying!?” “Why are they paying to put apps on my phone!?” “Why are they treating different types of content differently, their entire purpose is to be a pipe of connectivity!” And you know what? He’s right…
A true service provider.
Yeah lol. When I we first got wired internet at home (about 15 years ago), the speeds weren’t good. It averaged around 120 KBPS for browsing the internet. But the guy installing the connection told me that torrents went up to 10 MBPS easily, and he wasn’t lying. Before that, I didn’t understand that torrent worked in a fundamentally different way compared to direct downloads.
It was in India. I won’t be surprised if the situation is still similar. (I mean the attitude towards piracy. The speeds are pretty good nowadays.)
Torrents still work fine here. Speeds are good too.
Shit… You just gave me hope for this world.
I miss living back in Mexico and not having to activate (and pay for) the VPN whenever I want to download something.
I, uhh, keep the original media safe in a storage locker!
Purchased at MSRP at the Disney Store! Nothing else counts.
1990 Mall lifestyle.
Back when bathrooms had free condoms and cologne instead of heroin syringe buckets.
But at least we’re progressing as a society?
And that’s where I will continue to, uh, purchase all of my Disney™️ physical media for years to come…
https://m.imdb.com/news/ni62983624/
Too bad subtitles don’t work on Jellyfin
Edit: after going to Jellyfin technical support on discord I think I have it mostly working, I don’t know. Seems like I’ll be transcoding everything.
They… Don’t? Mine seem fine?
op is just lazy and does not know how to resolve his own problems
I have to install a third party program that runs on a schedule and extracts embedded subtitles? Why should I have to do that? Nobody can actually post a solution? I have to go to discord as suggested by one person here? Lots of down votes, no information available despite countless people saying subtitles don’t work and the best excuse is that Jellyfin devs inherited a mess. I’ve worked in IT administration for over 20 years. Downvote this too, just pretend everything works for everybody. Pretend if it doesn’t work, it’s because end users can’t fix a broken media server.
Text-based subtitles mostly work. Picture-based subtitles require transcoding or a client that supports them.
They don’t work for me. They don’t work for a lot of people. Emby works fine for everyone as far as I can tell.
Yoo bad you don’t know how to troubleshoot. In anycase, head over to discord. Post your issue, I will personally help you resolve it.
Why don’t you post the solution publicly so people know how to get subtitles working? Here’s a few of the people who posted about subtitles not working. This is just page 1 and 2 from what looks like hundreds of posts. No solutions in any of these pages.
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/6672
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/m3ac91/subtitles_fetching_additional_data/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/wy3ioj/subtitles_fetching_additional_data_always/
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/2710
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/wnpbc0/jellyfin_and_subtitles_any_best_practices/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/g468hk/certain_subtitles_not_working_fetching_additional/
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/3730
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/s0f6nv/is_there_any_plan_to_fix_the_subtitle_issue_that/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/13smuh1/why_is_jellyfin_loading_subtitles_so_slowly/
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/2650
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/pzbi3x/issues_with_subtitles/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/u33osq/subtitles_not_working_in_web_ui_is_there_a_fix/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/zp8gia/what_is_better_plex_or_jellyfin/
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/pull/7705
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/v67161/is_there_a_setting_that_allows_me_to_pre_do/
https://www.redditmedia.com/r/jellyfin/comments/13smuh1/why_is_jellyfin_loading_subtitles_so_slowly/?ref=readnext
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/10pukjm/lg_client_never_finishes_fetching_additional_data/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/wnpbc0/jellyfin_and_subtitles_any_best_practices/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/ttb7fg/text_based_subtitles_not_working/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/u4v91y/subtitles_stuck_on_loading_subtitles/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/yxr64l/unable_to_make_subtitles_to_work_without/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/veis4d/why_is_it_so_hard_for_jellyfin_compared_to_other/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/zrakrt/subtitles_almost_never_work_on_the_web_client/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/l45djt/mkv_subtitles_issue/
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/3001
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/fly5bd/problem_with_subtitles/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/13xkrwg/subtitles_not_displaying/
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/2507
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/ygsorv/unable_to_load_subtitles_i_have_a_feeling_this/
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/ui011w/jellyfin_subtitle_problematic_and_not_sure_why_it/
I am not asking you to DM me. My request is to go to support in Jellyfin discord where we can discuss the issue. I agree jellyfin is not free from issue. But when you say “too bad subtitles don’t work” , it’s leaves the rest of us confused. The issues you listed down, might be true in specific cases for example AAS subtitles not rendering correctly in VLC on Android TV. You see how specific the issue is ? In your case , we don’t know what’s up. Someone wanting to try jellyfin (who is not affected by your issue) would shy away from even trying.
In any case, I had no intention to accuse you or offend you in any way. I apologise if I came out strong.
Burrrn
Wish there was a Jellyfin client that had a sort by random on tvOS, literally the only reason I use the Plex app.
I’ve never seen that requested before. I’ll add it to the Roku client idea list.
It’s missing from many players. Infuse is missing it too, which I have to use because Plex on tvOS is TERRIBLE. How does everyone look at movies then? Scroll through them alphabetically? I miss the play random button too, they took that away a year or two ago.
The upcoming Jellyfin Roku release has a quick method to play a random item from each of your libraries, but we don’t have random sorting so you can see the list.
My current workaround for that is adding whatever I want to shuffle into a playlist. I have one with some sci-fi shows in it that I regularly use. Smart collections is my most missed feature from Plex.
edit: nvm, doesn’t sound like it would help your use case, read through it too quick first time round
Have never been able to get into playlists. I don’t have time to sit down and scroll through my thousands of movies to pick individual ones out for a certain mood. I did that with music back in the 00s, but I had a considerably larger amount of free time on my hands back then. Should probably look into them a bit more.
It needs a good Xbox app for me to switch. I could deal with dlna, but my wife and daughter need the easier interface plex has, and unless I can at least partially match that I can’t switch.
Same here, my brother uses it on his xbox. Once there is a good client there, I’ll make the jump.
It works fine on Google tv via the new gen Chromecast if that’s an option for you?
It working ‘fine’ is the reason I’ve switched back to Plex for the time being. Too many QoL issues for me personally
Wtf is all this Disney plus shit? I kept seeing it searching for a VPN.
Is Disney actually making shows people watch? Is it like watching a hour and a half tiktok?
To each their own I guess… At least everyones ripping it instead of paying for it.
Disney plus has a decent bit of solid content. By saying this you don’t sound edgy and cool like you think you do, you sound dated. It’s okay to accept that Disney makes decent content, they have enough money to. It’s also okay to not like their content. But pretending you’re an ancient ass ostrich with your head in the sand is just cringe.
Why do people think people/me are trying to sound edgy because they don’t understand Disney stuff, lol. Is that what this world has come to…? That’s what people stand for these days…? Disney?
Man the world’s fucked up these days if you think Disney is a part of everyone’s life… That’s really fucked up on a human scale.
Why not stand up for something real… Like people getting hurt…? So sick of seeing privileged people not realizing there’s literally an entire world outside of their pop lifestyle.
If you don’t understand the cultural impact that Disney has then you probably have been living under a rock.
Disney hasn’t done anything culturally significant in a long ass time. It’s been at least a decade of acquiring mature IPs and grinding them into dust for profit, or remaking shittier live versions of their classic animations. They sucked the magic out of Pixar films in recent years as well.
Have you watched recent Pixar movies? They seem perfectly fine to me.
Nobody here gives a fuck about your whataboutism, go troll somewhere else.
Here in Canada Disney+ also has a bunch of Hulu content, NatGeo and other stuff all rolled into one. It is a pretty amazing deal for only ca$12/month
How the fuck have you managed to both misunderstand and know so little about Disney+ with the multiple shows that have been major hits? I’m gonna take a guess and say you’re trolling. The multuple star wars and marvel shows that have been talked about absolutely everywhere, it would be incredibly hard to miss any of that.
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I knew this dumb fuck would say he didn’t have time to watch Disney plus, in a piracy community where people download things to spend their time.
Also he hunts criminals, that’s why he’s here partaking in this piracy community.
What a dumbass.
He hunts criminals in the same way Qanon hunts pedos.
The birth of a new copy pasta 👀
You sound like you’re fun at parties…
Dude’s obviously mentally unstable and probably a pedophile. It takes a special type of person to shoehorn “child sex trafficking” and multiple references of “jerking off” into a discussion about media server software.
You’re so hardcore. I wish I was like you. /s
No, you don’t hunt criminals. You pretend to do it, on some random social media network called lemmy.
I myself also don’t like Marvel, most of Star Wars and the other stuff Disney is pumping out. But what I like even less are people on the internet pretending that they are worth more than others because they watched some crime footage on YouTube.
Why don’t you get back to topic, which incidentally is Jellyfin and not the content on Disney+? Do you really have nothing of worth to add?
Don’t feed the troll!
I guess it’s for kids and maybe die-hard marvel fans but yeah, most content is either shit, ancient or both lol
not gonna lie, i enjoyed Loki… not much tbh… but it was nice to watch while nothing else to do. And i could only enjoy it because i pirated it. Watching it, knowing i paid for it… would’ve made me angry
The first season was fine, this last season was a waste of time. Each episode amounts to nothing and there is sooo much repetition that I was thrown back to Heroes season 2 during the NBC writers strikes.
I don’t know if S2 of Loki was the way it is because it was trying to change Kang or because it was trying to be impressive. As of now, it seems like the latter.
All that said, S2 of Loki was “technically fine”, the acting was decent-good, the visuals weren’t terrible for 90-95% of it, good soundtrack. It was just the premise and how it was written that fell flat for my friend and I, and we’re both just kind of bewildered by the positive reception to it. Like, is the bar that low for people? Were we expecting too much? Is Disney just astroturfing? maybe a little of all 3. But holy heck, compared to other shows like Gen V and Invincible coming out each week we are so hype and sad about those episodes ending and we watch Loki and go… “that was it? ok…”
I did like the ending, though. Pretty much the only part of the show that wasn’t sci-fi technobabble and actually amounted to something and a smidge of character development. Even still, it was only okay I guess.
Not at all, I’m far from a die-hard marvel fan and I’ve really enjoyed several of the recent marvel shows. And the multiple star wars shows are the best star wars things since the original trilogy. Lots of stuff other than that too.
I have a hard time believing anyone has sene ir heard of any of that so little like you guys have, I’ve never had Disney+ (I only download) and use adblockers etc and don’t have any friends that are marvel/Disney fanatics and I still don’t have to do anything to be aware of most of the stuff they release.
Add my hat to the “wtf does Disney make anymore?” club. I’ve never watched any SW, anything Marvel, I haven’t seen a Disney movie since VHS was the standard. I have friends who are very much into Marvel movies and even then I couldn’t tell you anything about any of the films, I have absolutely zero interest (there’s a guy with a circle shield with a star on it, I think?).
Hell, the only content I consume is stuff I find out about organically on my own; I’ve been enjoying my anti-advertising bubble for near two decades. I didn’t even know about a couple of these ‘big name’ studios running streaming services until a show I was actually interested in slid across my radar, and I’m like ‘the fuck, Paramount is doing this now?’. Disney I found out because people were bitching about yet another streaming service, otherwise I’d still be in the dark.
I grew up in peak Disney content time (90-00, everyone knew about the Disney Channel), and other than a handful of VHS films and Mickey Mouse, they might as well not exist to me. I’m sure there is a ton of stuff like that, where I just have no interest and with the lack of advertising I completely skate on by, none the wiser.
Isn’t it wild that people just assume everyone panders to pop culture?
It’s pretty dark when you think about it. Like it brings a wave of hopelessness over me.
Thanks for your balanced minded comment. God knows I can speak like that…
I haven’t listened to American pop music for over 15 years… Pretty much the same for any media. That stuff never interested me at all. Most of the people I’m friends with don’t mess around with it either.
…but apparently some people think it’s an integral part of life, lol. That’s just mind blowing.
I guess I’m “edgy” lmao.
Disney has acquired Marvel over a decade ago (14 years). They are closer to producing 2 decades of Marvel content (6 years from now) than they are from the date of the initial merger in 2009.
It’s very similar for Star Wars which was 2012.
They also still make original kids shows.
The only way I come across new releases/films are from YouTube recommendations of clips/trailers. And even that stops when the Piped instance where I’m on works properly for me.
It’s kind of nice but I’ll have to admit that YouTube knows me so well that it’s recommendations are something I actually enjoy. I came to know about the Loki series from trailers on YouTube
I’m aware of it, I just think the content is terrible. Excluding Loki season 1 and Andor, I guess. But even with those two I’m just so fed up with their franchises, I don’t think I’m gonna watch more of it.
My roommate and I enjoyed Andor, Loki, and some of the other Star Wars stuff
But yeah their selection is pretty limited, which is why we cancelled our subscription awhile ago
Andor was excellent. I was burnt out on Star Wars but buddy insisted. It’s well worth the watch.
Everything else meh
Straight up IMO Andor is the best Star Wars show to come out on Disney plus
The other Star Wars shows that came out on steaming are pretty meh
Mando was pretty damn good season 1 but quickly turned meh
Star Wars Visions is worth the watch IMO as some cool Star Wars content but it’s pretty different than the other Star Wars shows which makes it better
Andor might be one of the best pieces of star wars media (movies/shows specifically) to ever come out tbh
Yeah true, Andor and Loki were great to be fair but that were really the only things worth watching for me in YEARS
I would be interested in ripping Loki tbh. I didn’t know it was by Disney, but I suppose it doesn’t matter to a pirate such as I
I loved the second season of Loki 🤩
Jellyfin works great in an all Jellyfin environment. It’s poor integration with Chromecast ultimately kept me off the platform. But that’s on me for letting Google make things too easy.
I will give Jellyfin further credit, that Finamp is really well designed for music use, and it kept me running the server in parallel with other media servers for quite a while.
It has a pretty good google tv app. That’s how my wife mainly uses it. I use the iOS app Swiftfin.
I didn’t know Finamp existed. How does it compare to Plexamp?
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What? Why do you say that?
I use it on my Chromecast constantly. I have had subtitle sync problems with some media, but that is literally on every single jellyfin app platform I have tried.
You can use jellyfin to manage your Kodi media which is how I use it. I get the customizability of Kodi with the seamless syncing between devices of jellyfin.
Jellyfin is on the LG OS store, so if your home theater has an LG TV, it’s phenomenal. I can’t recommend getting the high end LG TVs enough if you’re self hosting. Between Swiftfin on an iPad if you’re quietly in bed, or LG in the home theater, they’re all native platform apps and slay. No need from browser otherwise.
I had enough parts laying around to build a HTPC but the LG is too damn good, especially after you pihole it.
The LG app is jellyfin TV, right? It gives me issues with some formats, the video player is kinda crap honestly, if you try to forward or go back in the video it freezes for some seconds, zero buffering, and the UI is kinda ugly. I use another video payer as a proxy and that solves the ui and some formats, but it still complain on some others and the buffering issue is still there for some reason.
This is quite weird since the android app, which supposedly is just the Web app plugged in through react native, works flawlessly. Instead of adding tv controls to that app they decided to create a new one and it’s really not the best idea.
I hate to say it but this doesn’t happen with emby, the UI is similar but I’m able to see all the formats I own and there’s no issue with forwarding.
Jellyfin is awesome but…
There are still problems. The mobile app recently got loads better but still has some pretty major issues with subtitles, showing that subtitles either are barely tested, or the dev simply doesn’t have the resources required or finished the app in a better way. Right now you cannot watch two episodes of a show in a row over Chromecast with subtitles without the last subtitles of the previous show frozen in screen and the new subtitles being display above those. Gotta disconnect Chromecast, shutdown the app, restart everything. This is super annoying but still light-years better than the previous mobiel app that would basically require a reinstall after each episode.
There are many other issues too, scrubbing is much better again, but still problematic and tents to freeze, requiring restarting everything.
Jellyfin is awesome but I can’t really let my wife use it, as she doesn’t have the computer patience that I have.
Oh that is an extremely different experience that what I’m having! Chromecast works fine for me and i never have to restart anything and no problems with scrubbing either, just a bit slow on shows with a lot of episodes (300+). I have given my friends access to my server and most of them are using it just fine (sure with some issue now and then, as you said its not perfect). And in iOS with the alternative Swiftfin client the experience feels phenomenal!!
Do you use subtitles
Yes! Usually the ones that come with the media are fine for me but i also have the open subtitles plugin to download extra ones in my language. There are no problems 98% of the time and the other 2% its just that they won’t load and I just have to select/download different ones.
I don’t have this issue with Jellyfin on my Chromecast at all.
Sometimes it’ll not “remember” which sub track I had selected when going to the next episode and I have to re-select it, or occasionally it won’t properly burn in the subtitles and I have to back out and restart the episode, but I never get them “stuck” like that.
I’d recommend trying to change the default player, the player is actually where I find most of the issues arise with subtitles. Jellyfin ships with LibVLC and ExoPlayer on Chromecast, but only uses one by default. I have it set to ask me which player to use for each show, since the subtitles for some of my shows work in one player but not the other.
Also are you using the Chromecast app for Jellyfin or are you casting to the Chromecast through the Jellyfin mobile app? (Not sure if the latter is possible, but I can see that causing weird behavior)
Interesting! Thanks, did not know that.
I’m casting using the mobile app, is there another way to cast, even?
There’s a dedicated app you can install on your Chromecast, then connect to your server the same way you connect on your phone. Works great for me as long as I select the right player
My biggest issue with Jellyfin is the downloads. I hate not being able to downscale or compress files. Its really the main reason I still leave Plex up in conjunction to it. Though I hope to be able to get rid of Plex entirely in the future, Jellyfin just needs more time.
Agreed and inknownit needs more time but it’s frustrating that I can’t yet sit down with family and watch something because it’s so unreliable
I’m sticking with Plex for now too. Although there are some grating, persistent issues in basic use, it usually just works.
Swear the UI gets laggier on the TV by the day, Jellyfin was jarring to me how snappy it was in comparison.
I switched recently from Plex to jellyfin because Plex implemented stuff I do not need nor want, and it was full of bugs. Jellyfin works way better for me then Plex did.
As someone who just finished dusting my hat off after 12 years and setting up jellyfin how do I get the content I need for it?
Try Usenet, you don’t need to worry about a VPN that way
You can only access it by paying, right?
Also, do you think there’s content with subtitles or in languages other than English? (Italian, for example)
There’s subs in a lot of languages. But it really depends on the community
https://www.opensubtitles.com/en
The price for an indexer + unlimited regular usenet from most providers is about 100 bucks a year. So cheaper than a single normal streaming service.
Yes generally, but it can be very cheap. Some places sell block accounts which let you pay a one time fee for a set amount of data. Black Friday deals are coming up, and you an usually get amazing deals (1TB for under $5, able to be purchased multiple times, or subscriptions which work out to a couple dollars/euros a month).
The other thing you’d need is an indexer. Some are free, but for the best experience you’d want to pay for acess to a private indexer. Usually a few bucks as well, almost all of the big ones run sales this time of the year.
For subtitles: there are several solutions. Jellyfin (and Plex) support finding subtitles that you either download with a tool like Bazarr, or via Jellyfin/Plex’s own interface. Bazarr auto downloads them based on your parameters you give it though.
Okay, so maybe I could try it first with a block account and an indexer. I’ll keep an eye on black Friday deals. Thank you :)
Take a look at the pinned megathread of this community
I usually try qbittorrent + plug-ins (1337x and others) with that you can search for stuff directly from the torrent client which is great. If it’s not there I’ll usually look up on btdig or similar torrent indexers, after that, I’ll send the files to my server via FTP.
People should try emby instead. I find it the best of the 3 main contenders.
There’s some history there, if you didn’t know. Jellyfin is a fork of Emby.
Yep I know. I just found it to be poorer quality. Emby is much more polished.
I moved from Plex to Jellyfin because of this video.
keep both, sometimes jwllyfin doesn’t like streaming one kind of hdr or another and Plex will stream that. rarely can be the other way around. I have both using the same library, if one fails I try the other one.
For some reason, my Plex can’t tell the difference between the episodes and seasons. Also 4k video it messes with the colors. So far Jellyfin has been pretty good.
Does anyone have hypothetical knowledge on how to set up jellyfin at one location for several family members spread out across the country?
Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 ways.
For 1. you don’t necessarily need a VPN. A reverse tunnel using SSH should be sufficient and is easier.
Where are you seeing a VPS for $1/month that works well as a Jellyfin server for multiple people?
I have a VPS from RackNerd for something like $11.5/yr. You can check some offers from them here.
To be clear, it probably won’t work well as a Jellyfin server since the storage and CPU capabilities aren’t great. But it’s pretty good as a relay, which is what I described above. I have a local machine, and I use the VPS to relay the connection to the open internet.
Still very cool, though. Thanks!
I had a question: in the $12/year plan from Racknerd, is the deal tied to a specific instance which you can spin up for that much money? Or can I just shut it down and switch it on the next day without extra charges?
I’m trying to find an API to use with Racknerd (SolusVM, but their documentation is a bit confusing for me) to be able to pull up VMs on demand. I basically want a new IP for my VM everyday, however requesting a new IP from Racknerd incurs fees, or so I have heard.
Mine is a KVM. It’s tied to a specific instance and IP. Changing the IP is not free.
Which means that if you shut it down, the plan is nullified?
Oh no. You can shut it down, and turn it on all you want. But you’ll retain all your data and IP address.
If you treat it as relay, then does it consume bandwidth on the VPS?
Yes, it does. Mine gives me 2TB/month of bandwidth, which is plenty for my use.
Do not expose Jellyfin to the general Internet. They have security issues, I would not trust that (no cloudflare does not save you by default).
There are basically two ways: VPN, or authenticated reverse proxy. VPN is probably the easiest to setup and the most flexible, but it’s a bit of a pita to use.
Authenticated reverse proxy will break apps, but the web app will work (and you can setup your reverse proxy to allow specific user agents from the VPN to bypass it, allowing apps on the VPN to work). I currently do this so I can look at metadata on my phone without a VPN setup.
If you have good home upload and want to host at home, a simple reverse proxy on the vps provider of your choice does the trick. I host for a large group of friends and family and it all proxies through haproxy running on digitalocean.
You don’t even need the vps unless you’re behind cgnat Though you should never expose Jellyfin to the Internet, they have had and continue to have major security problems
It’s easy af, just look up Jellyfin server guide. Basically it’s just forwarding a few ports and setting up usernames/passwords for them and you’re good to go
This is the riskiest way of doing it because you’re exposing ports to the open internet.
It gets more complicated if someone is double-natted (CG/NAT) unfortunately.
A slightly more complicated setup would be to host Jellyfin on one’s server at home and run a VPN client to a VPS which would have the necessary ports forwarded and routing configured. This way the people who know the right credentials can log in (assuming SSO) and the hoster doesn’t have to open their own port
one could dyndns their servers’ ipv6 instead, where cgnat to my knowledge does not exist
add tailscale and you’re golden
I personally use GL.iNet routers. Basically you create VPN tunnels between a WG(WireGuard) server hosted on one router, and WG clients hosted on another GL.iNet router or a device that supports the WG app (PC and mobile afaik). The router using the WG server is facing WAN so no need to port forward and you can use it to connect to your jellyfin server as well as RDP or SSH into your server. The WG clients are simple, just need to be connected to the Internet. The tunnels bandwidth is based on your ISP’s upload speed(fiber is great, with coax good luck streaming 4k) where the WG server is located. You can use WG without the router too, but I’ll just speak to my experience.
Edit: YT link to intro for the routers - https://youtu.be/LXbDg1v65Qs?feature=shared
My setup is this:
So me, my partner, parnets, and friends when outside my network can go to jellyfin.domain.whatever and login to my jellyfin. No ports open to the internet except 80/443 on the reverse proxy, and no ips to remember. That will give you some things to google to get started to replicate a similar setup for your needs.
In terms of security, isn’t this kind of the same as just opening the server port to the internet, which many others are advising against?
Okay , for anyone who can advise a noob like me.i don’t want NAS, of fancy connections and switches and gears. All I want is to get SSD or HDD , an tore t client to download ahem " iso"s and then I open my TV/comouert and voilà it’s there, what is easy and simplest way to do it ?.
Get a Synology NAS, put HDDs in it, easily install Torrent client and media server software, and enjoy.
A NAS is a box for HDDs, a low-powered computer to drive them, an OS, and some bits of software you choose to run on it.
He literally just said he didn’t want a NAS. All he needs then is to a get a couple 2-4 TB SSDs, and just stick them in his computer. Boom done
I got that but wondered if he knew what an NAS can be. It doesn’t need to be complicated but you are right: he can just add a bunch of HDDs to his current PC and install the necessary server apps. But I doubt someone who doesn’t want to bother with an added NAS has a PC that can host a bunch of extra SATA drives.
I know what I’m doing, and I don’t want a NAS. I have a 4Tb M.2 as my boot & games drive, and 2x 14TB HDD for Media. I have Plex installed and it’s great.
Most people don’t need a NAS. Unless you’re running a full network setup like Linus, a NAS isn’t needed.
I can watch stuff on my PC, or I can cast to the living room TV, while the missus casts to the bedroom PC.
If you have a computer, and it’s on the internet, you have NAS… Network Attached Storage… your computer is on the network, and it has storage, then it’s network attached storage. Everything else is just software controlling it all. FFS
Yes, you’re right, pedantic, but right. Thing is, we’ve been talking about having an “on-prem” NAS.
There’s really not any need to have a go at me, I’m just trying to help some dude who doesn’t want to spend an extra 300 quid on a NAS box, setup the software and have to play with raid.
As if any of that is more complicated than running your off the shelf Windows computer… at about the same cost… because, ultimately, they’re the same thing… an operating system, running one or more storage drives, plugged into a network. If that is too complex to wrap one’s mind around… well… shrugs
I’m not sure I understand what that means but yes, a NAS is not indispensable, but it’s a great convenience. Pre-NAS that’s how I rolled until I didn’t want to have to run my full-powered gaming PC all the time.
It’s not really a convenience if you’ve never set one up, not technically minded, and are just after some media storage.
You’ll be telling him to install some Linux distro next.
No no, I can read the audience. He can get a pre-built NAS from the likes of Synology or QNAS with a nifty simplified web interface. They are very low maintenance and there are detailed, step-by-step guides to turn them into streaming monsters.
Can you get better hardware for less money? If you go the DIY route without a doubt. But sometimes you want a box with a bunch of drives to store your movies and serve them without a hassle and you can buy that.
My only complaint is Synology skimps too much on the RAM.
Install Plex Radarr Sonarr and Jackett.
Select jackett as the indexer for both sonarr and Radarr.
Select your torrent program as the main torrent program for both radarr and sonarr.
Point the Plex library to whatever folder you selected to use on Radarr and Sonarr.
And that’s it.
One suggestion I might make is Prowlarr instead of Jackett. I found it to be a lot easier to work with but YMMV.
Also I usually suggest adding Overseerr to the stack. It hides everything away behind a super easy to use app.
Does your TV have a USB port? You might literally be able to just download files to an external drive and go plug that into your TV.
NVIDIA Shield with USB drive, and the Shield supports running Plex. Hook the Shield up to your main TV, share its content anywhere else you need it using Plex. You can even torrent directly on the Shield.
Download Plex. It’s as simple as it gets.
Install & setup Jellyfin Install Qbittorrent
Download movies and series, put them in the folders that Jellyfin is monitoring.
Install Jellyfin on your phone and your TV or Streaming device.
Play.
After that, if you want more automation, do what others said: Radarr, Sonarr, Prowlarr, Bazarr
I am currently running Jellyfin with a single 10TB disk. I would love to move to a dedicated NAS, but that is so expensive.
I built by own NAS for $100 and with old HDDs I had lying around. Buy used, old parts on eBay (like 10 years old) install Unraid trial. Bob’s your uncle. Then you can upgrade as you go as needed.
[$250 isn’t that expensive for what you get IMO](http://www.Synology.com/ 2-Bay NAS DS223 (Diskless) https://a.co/d/6IV6C8d)
I want to go for a 4 bay one, so that I’ll survive a disk failure. And then you’re looking at about 2000 Euro for the NAS and four drives.
I have the ds 220 in raid 1 configuration. Going well so far.
RAID1 is nice, but you lose 50% of your total capacity to the mirroring. I want to go with 4 drives and RAID5. I only give up 1 drive of capacity and can still lose one without losing data. If I invest money into this I don’t want to compromise too much, as it needs to last for years.
Just buy a used PC and the drives. You don’t have to buy them all at once since you can add drives to your RAID.
I’ve got old PCs, but would rather have something that uses very little power rather than some ancient Athlon X2 running full tilt.
Those mini PCs are neat, but lack space for drives.
As far as I can tell a Dell small form factor and Synology idle around 15-25w and 15w respectively. Both seem to pop up to 30-45w under average load depending on what you’re doing with them. But it depends on the kind of processor you pick and additional drives will also pull more wattage.
The SFF units are limited on space. The one I have is limited to one HDD although you could put a few SATA SSDs in there and 1 nvme. The SSDs would be more expensive but lower energy use. I’ve been toying with attaching a external HDD mount to the case to see if I could add in some extra drives.
I’m not familiar with the EU/UK market, but in the US I got my used Dell for $87 from eBay. It came with 8Gb RAM and a 250Gb SSD. And it had cosmetic damage so the seller sent me a second for free :P
I think depending on how much storage you need it could be a viable alternative.
Currently I’m still using my Odroid HC4 which is probably super power efficient but limited to 2 drives and it isn’t very powerful.
The Synology units are much more user friendly out of the box though. Also I guess it depends on if you just want a NAS or if you eventually want to get into self hosting.
You didn’t properly format your markdown
I noticed, but it kinda works. One takes you to learn more about the brand and the other to the store site.
I agree. There are a bunch of DIY server options with linux. You should go that route to save money.
I don’t see anything that would be cheaper than a DS923 from Synology, which costs 570 plus the drives. The cheapest I see still costs me 1200 Euro for everything.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JhPvZJ
I didn’t even bother getting the best price. I just selected things that would work well.
Get an LSI HBA in IT Mode for another $60 to add another 8 drives.
The case was chosen because it can support 11 drives. It comes with six bays by default but you can buy packs of two bays for $15.
As is, this will cost ~$560 plus the drives and allow you to use eleven 3.5", but cheaper and better options for the PSU, mobo, SSD and memory are out there. I just selected things that would be useful for what you need and provide better hardware than a Synology.
If you don’t need as much storage, you can shave off $160 with a cheaper case and skip the HBA.
Nah, you need to build a PC or pickup a older server. I went with Synology and it ended up close to $1k with drives 😭
I built a Ryzen 5800X machine using a cheap AsRock motherboard and three 8tb WD Red drives for about $600 USD. I did reuse the case, power supply, and NVME cache drive from an old build. I’m running Unraid and it has been great!
I went with Toshiba drives, but debating that decision. 😄
It’s not cheap but building a nas from scratch is loads cheaper. Looking up NAS killer 6 on serverbuilds.net have some great guides and support
That looks nice, but I am not getting anything close to the listed prices. I don’t see the board for under 400 Euro, the PSU is off by a factor of 10 and so on. Overall I don’t think I can build the PC for less than the 573 Euro a Synology DS923+ would cost me. The only upside of the custom build would be that I can attach more than 4 disks.
You can build a dedicated NAS fairly inexpensively. If you have an old computer you don’t use anymore that’s a great starting point. I was able to find a micro optiplex at my local used computer store for $99 and it runs great. I originally had it running on a raspberry pi 3 but was having power management issues and needed something a little more powerful.
I would recommend using Samba for your NAS. It’s a free SMB server that lets you access your data on all operating systems. Other Linux computers can mount samba by adding a line to /etc/fstab. On Windows you just go to file explorer and click map network drive.
You could always hop over to https://frame.work and pick up a refurbished Intel mainboard plus an enclosure (or 3D print your own using their plans). You’d just need to get some RAM and a small SSD to run an OS like TrueNAS and you’d be good to go for probably under USD $600.