"A bad TV show no one will remember in 3 months…": Some Fallout Fans are Gatekeeping Pretty Hard after New Vegas Revelations and Retcons Send Them Over the Edge
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The Fallout TV show is something a lot of fans have been waiting for, and with good reason. The success of live-action adaptations such as The Last of Us

I’ve finished 3 fallout games but fortunately don’t remember any of it well enough for any of this to mean anything to me so I can just enjoy the show.

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Same… but the caveat for me. I remember the gameplay and main story of each game…i can’t for the life of me remember any of the flavor text/ world text… so little details that the series gets wrong will likely not erk me like other shows have in the past.

I’m only a couple episodes in at the moment though… who knows, watching might spark all sorts of memories.

The show is not high art. No one will be winning an Emmy for acting. It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games.

If you’re expecting a Last of Us calibre deep dive into society and the human condition coping with an apocalypse, you’ll be disappointed. If you’re expecting a fun romp through the wastelands with body parts gratuitously exploding into red mist, then look no farther!

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Without having seen the series I’m guessing yours is probably the most accurate descriptor I’ve seen so far.

Whenever it comes to fandoms like this, the camps are always so divided in extremes. And neither camp is usually correct.

I mean, I saw Twisted Metal season 1 and it was not good by means an “actual reviewer” would stand by. But was it enjoyable? Sure. (Probably more so if I was high while watching it.) Will it be remembered? Not by a long shot.

The Fallout TV Show is likely better than TM, but I doubt it will remembered alongside Breaking Bad, The Sopranos or even Futurama for that matter.

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It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games

Which is it? because an entertaining engaging, visually stimulating show which is also a fantastic adaptation of its source material should have a good rating

I’ve basically given up on ratings and threads about ratings because every idiot thinking they sound bright, reduce everything to either “best ever, Jebus herself couldn’t make it better” or “dog shit that will make you pray for cancer to take your disappointment away”

PS: not referring to you (person I’m replying to) when taking about idiots that polarize everything… Referring in general to polarizers (that’s a word, right?)

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I couldn’t wade through the first episode of the Last of Us. I watched this entire thing in one sitting and have now seen most of it twice. It deserves a decent score on RT.

The Ghoul definitely picked Bloody Mess as one of his perks.

One of us! One of us!

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Best review I’ve seen so far

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i am a big new vegas fan, and follow a lot of youtubers and other parts of the fandom - I havent seen this backlash against the show this article mentions? Most NV fans are pretty happy with it that Ive seen.

Maybe this is only happening in the more toxic circles?

The show isn’t that bad but it’s also definitely not as good as the people here are making it sound. The copium levels in this thread are off the charts. The show is mediocre. That’s all there is to it. Stop over thinking it

Fandomwire wants clicks, clearly.

Anything I should be aware of if I decide I’d like to give it a watch?

It sometimes runs on video game logic (for example, some pretty bad injuries can be healed instantly with the right equipment while others can’t) and is bloodier than I would have expected. I’d say you don’t need to be too familiar with the games as the show tells its own story. It has quite a few references to tropes from the games but even if you don’t get the reference, it should still be enjoyable.

In general don’t trust sensationalist reviews that call it the best or worst show of the year.

I’m a franchise loyalist and I am so, so, so past caring about this New Vegas shit. There’s no guarantees that New Vegas isn’t in despair off an external shot. And even if it is, I’m interested in hearing how it goes.

The show was great.

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I stopped watching in the first episode when the tiny girl beat up a muscular huge man.

Felt like avengers but she is supposed to be a normal girl right? I felt it was so dumb.

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…you mean the girl (at the beginning of the episode, shown to be an A+ in all “stats”) that took on a man post coitus and still was thrown around the room and only survived thanks to the blender?

Seemed pretty realistic, and Fallout to me.

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Yeah I don’t know the fallout backstory at all, but A+ doesn’t change things like physics.

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@1984 in Bethesda games it does 😜 No seriously, their engine is known for most hilarious ragdoll moments.

Yeah I’ve heard about that actually :) Funny…

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The only backstory you need is right after the prelude, it showed that she was really good at judo.

A woman beating the shit out of a man does not defy physics.

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I removed the smiley since I didn’t intend it to be condescending. But I’m 100% certain that guy would knock that girl out in a second. It wasn’t just “a man”, it was a fit fighter man with tons of muscles.

But like I said, if it’s a game, there is no real physics so anything is possible.

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There is an anecdote about a judo teacher from where I live: he also liked his motorbike, so one day he was joining the highway, when some car rear-ended him at twice the speed, crushing the bike into the barrier. Driver was all panicky, then weirded out when the guy showed up to check if everyone was all right. Turns out he instinctively jumped out of the bike, did a somersault over the car, and landed rolling, then got up and ran to check on the driver.

No game physics needed.

So yeah, go ahead and be “100% certain”. I’ve seen actual martial arts masters IRL, and you wouldn’t believe how quick a fight can end with a thug biting the dust, or a lamppost. Technique beats muscles any day.

If anything, that fight on the show was slowed down and drawn out for “dramatic effect”.

Being strong doesn’t make you a capable fighter.

Knocking someone out is not as easy as it may seem, it takes skill, more than strength.

One in eight men think they could score a point against Serena Williams

Who do you think would win between an Olympic level male swimmer, or an amateur level female UFC fighter?

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It’s an RPG, of course it does! Particularly if you decide to give your character the ‘Bloody Mess’ perk, which causes every enemy to violently and horrifically explode in a shower of miscellaneous chunks.

Well I guess, if the TV show is supposed to be like a game, then at least I understand why she is overpowered.

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What a journey that was for you to discover the obvious

Beat up? Are you kidding me? She’s described as a combat trained woman in peak physical performance and she’s still being overcomed by the man aggressor. She succeeded in winning buy using a blender as a weapon, and that sounds pretty realistic to me.

I mean, as the previous posters have said, if this is supposed to be like a game, then sure. Anything is possible. But if it was reality, she would have no chance against that guy.

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But if it was reality

“In a future, post-apocalyptic Los Angeles brought about by nuclear decimation, citizens must live in underground bunkers to protect themselves from radiation, mutants and bandits.”

And you picked a girl punching a guy the exact moment to suspend your belief at? Damn dude.

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I disagree, but ok.

Yeah it’s fine. Let’s move on to other topics. :)

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It’s a video game show that uses the rules of the video game world.

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Her introduction montage at the beginning, where she was doing all the exercises and training, didn’t do it for ya? Between the two, I thought the guy was less believable given his circumstances.

Really? So interesting to me that someone would think she could even hurt the guy.

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The way he was built in the show, sure, but he’s supposedly very irradiated, malnourished and poorly disciplined. I think the scenario of her winning that fight on makes more sense than him looking so buff in the first place.

Yeah makes sense. I don’t know the backstory at all so in that light, it makes sense. Guess they wanted to cast some sexy actor rather than someone who looks the part.

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I played the games. I think the show’s sets and designs are good, but I can’t get into it. It just feels like sequalitis with no soul.

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I’ve played all the Fallout games, my wife has played none of them. We are both enjoying it quite a bit so far, at least two episodes in.

Yeah my wife and I have played both and were part way through the third episode and are really enjoying it.

Similar boat, except my wife actually got hooked on FO76 a couple of months back and loved it.

I skip a lot of adaption shows or remakes, so she basically forced me to start it, but I wound up really enjoying it. We’re trying not to binge it all in a day, so I’m only halfway through, but I look forward to watching it.

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Cold takes from crybabies.

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Psh everyone I’ve talked to that’s seen it loved it

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Lol, bullshit. 94%/88% on RT.

The show is awesome, and has already been greenlit for S02. It would have been so easy to fuck this show up, but they knocked it out of the park. As an avid player of the games, I loved it! This reviewer doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

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I think the show is solid, but I did notice at one point that it’s basically a reskin of Westworld and now I can’t unsee it.

I mean, naive girl gets the nature of her world redefined for her and is poised to become a revolutionary fighter? That happens.

A ruthless, cruel cowboy who isn’t a cowboy but plays one for a long time, has god mode on and looks like an actor you know was left in the sun for too long? Surprisingly specific, but yep.

Is actually based on a videogame full of NPCs? In different ways but yeah.

Beloved older actor plays a figure of corporate authority with a secret plan? Getting into stretch territory but I see it.

I still enjoyed it, though. Looks so much better than the trailers, too, and it took me a while to realize it’s because the trailers really had to hide the gore so they looked really cosplay-y. Hard to look cosplay-y with so many chunks flying around.

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This is such a high level description that it is a meaningless comparison. The fact that Fallout doesn’t take itself nearly as seriously as Westworld is already a huge difference. Sometimes the implementation is what is valuable, not the idea.

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Well… you know, it’s the same people exploring the same ideas through the same archetypes. I think that comes through pretty clearly. All joking about specifics aside, it’s kinda hard to miss once you notice.

At some point we’re gonna get to the synths parts and I’m expecting blow for blow repeated scenes at this point.

Most stories fall into one of a few archetypes at least since the time of the Epic of Gilgamesh.

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