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if youre using android, please install youtube revanced/revanced extended. it makes the youtube experience a lot less shit. if youre using an iphone and live in europe, wait until iOS is officially forced to allow sideloading and install a third party client!
Do these 3rd party apps let you get rid of Shorts? I absolutely despise accidentally clicking on Shorts and would prefer if they actually stayed in the Shorts section so this doesn’t happen on my Home feed.
Try Grayjay still in development and sometimes it crashes but it has no shorts. Better said it has them but they get treated like a video. No full screen no dedicated button and no scrolling. Downside (or not) it has no recommendations even if you subscribe,can’t comment in youtube but you got a platform comments
Use Newpipe for Android. Best YouTube experience you can get.
Not if you want to keep the subscriptions from your official account. In that case Revanced is better.
I’m pretty sure there’s an import option. But I’ve never used it because I have no Google account.
There is a way to import them in block!
Yup.
They’re clearly using iOS. Plus, you can already sideload up to two apps with SideStore. I recommend uYouPlusExtra.
I just went the ol’ VPN route and got a YouTube Premium family subscription in Turkey. It’s about 2€/month for 5 people; peanuts essentially. I wish I could avoid giving money to Google entirely but I’m mostly using Apple devices to consume YouTube content and my four friends who share the subscription with me do as well. So yeah, that’s the trade-off I can live with.
I know a lot of people have grown attached to their free stuff, but it looks like a time has come to pay for the stuff we consume
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It might become so when it’s funding your free entertainment
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Can I have extra boot juice thank you so very much please?
Ask for it on my r/onlyfans and I’ll consider it
You’re the bootlicker soooo…
Trying to get a discount?
Yeah but they have a premium account already.
Someone forgot to remove // from the code.
Vanced and revanced are modded versions of the youtube app that block ads and enable premium stuff without paying for that. I used to run that while I had premium, cuz it is actually a lot better than the stock youtube app even apart from blocking ads
That’s probably from ReVanced, it reads Premium by default.
It’s an iPhone. I’m not sure if you can install revanced.
Also, I used to have YouTube premium subscription and they do shit like that.
uYou++ is an option for iPhone (installed through AltStore/Sideloadly.
Been using it for about two years now? Works flawlessly. Well, YouTube, if you’d wanted me to stay on the stock app you should have left the ‘press info and click do not show ad’ feature enabled.
I don’t have the energy to go through the hoops to sideload an app.
Also, yattee supports sponsorblock natively.
Soon you will be, the EU is forcing apple to behave like a good little trillion dollar company. If you’re outside the us tho, I dunno.
I’m on a family subscription for YouTube premium. It’s affordable that way
Hopefully, meanwhile, I’m experimenting with yattee and invidious.
So far, it’s running rock solid.
The only downside is my isp provides unlimited youtube in my data plan. Hopefully invidious is covered as well.
Chuckles in EU net neutrality
I’ve been hearing about this yettee client, but I can’t find it. Do you happen to have a link? I’d like to try it out
The mobile plan have unlimited social media so yeah.
There you go:
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/app/id1595136629
Github https://github.com/yattee/yattee
Each to his own I guess… yes, those are cheap, but I’m still teaching my kid to pirate. These skills (and others as well) will become valuable in the long run in real life as well… my 2 cents.
Oh yes, that is a skill I can recommend, even tho I avoid using it unless necessary
So do I, but it never hurts to know how to do something 😉.
You got flamed for being right.
Not for me. If I can’t have it for free, then I just won’t have it at all 🤷.
That’s kinda the point
Absolutely fair, I’m pretty sure this is going to hurt youtube as a platform in the long run
Not really IMO. If it gets to that, most people will pay. Sure, there will be workarounds, like ReVanced and the likes, but it will be unknown or too complicated to do for most users.
Perhaps, it’s funny tho that YouTube is mostly just informing the world that adblock exists
I think most people know that adblockers exist, they just don’t know how to implement them on their devices.
Anyone half cabable should be able to google that
Yeah, I’m with ya on that… unfortunatelly, from what I’ve witnessed living for 38 years on this earth, most people are not.
I will stop consuming before I start paying for something like Youtube.
That’s kinda the point YouTube is going for. People who do not pay, and who use ad blockers are actively costing them money. People don’t realize how expensive it is to host an hd video that can be streamed to millions of people. There’s a reason no one has been able to seriously compete with YouTube.
So hide the HD stuff behind a paywall. I’m perfectly happy at 720p for the VAST majority of videos. Might even agree to go lower if it means I can watch it without ad breaks.
The video being in SD doesn’t make it free to host. YouTube still has to pay for the servers that store the videos and for delivering the video to you. And guess what! Most people don’t watch in HD and don’t even realize it.
Is it cheaper? Yeah. Is it free, no. Delivering just the audio for billions of users would cost more than most people will see in a lifetime ten times over.
You brought up specifically HD. I’m willing to watch ads so that YT can continue delivering even lower quality videos as long as those ads don’t interrupt the video.
I misunderstood your point about no ad breaks, I thought you meant no advertising at all on videos.
That said, HD was just an adjective. I can edit and remove it if you want, but the point still stands that hosting anything at YouTube’s scale is stupid expensive. Even if you cut the data load again and go down to 480p it’s still crazy expensive that requires compensation to exist.
Something like 275,000 hours of video is uploaded to YouTube daily and users watch about one billion hours daily.
Pay for things that respect you as a user, not this garbage.
If I pay this kind of money, I expect an API to user-respecting third party apps.
That’s what they should do. Allow use of Reddit-style third party apps (before the API debacle) for premium users.
That would be awesome
I would like for Nebula to support a secure payment method. But for now this is what I’ll be using. I can still support my favoutite creators on patreon
I was considering Nebula – many of my subscriptions are there – but I need downloading (I am currently using NewPipe for that) and they have also had some anti-anti-Zionist tendencies.
Wait they don’t have downloading? Ain’t that a basic feature nowadays :/
A basic feature where exactly?
YouTube, deezer, Netflix, spotify, yt music, apple music, etc
YouTube allows you to download videos? And Netflix too?! Can you keep them if you stop your subscription?
If content is sent to your pc then there is a way to save it, regardless of how they try to hide that
Technically yes, but you might be interested in hdcp
They have no third-party clients either, which I assume is to prevent piracy (which will happen anyway). For me, it has the opposite effect – I would pay if they enabled downloads. Now I just freeload the non-exclusive content off YouTube.
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Because I’m bad at identifying sarcasm, this section exists in case “Ain’t that a basic feature nowadays :/” was meant sarcastically (it could be because of how much more popular streaming has become as opposed to downloading).
Well, I don’t really have mobile data (way too expensive in my country), so I pre-download videos to watch/listen to in public transit.
Ow, that just made me reconsider getting in the platform at all. thank you. Also, yes, sarcasm. No worries, I struggle with it too
I don’t even pay for those, lol 😂… cuz sooner or later, they turn into garbage anyway.
You can always stop paying or switch platforms. In my experience, it’s always good to switch every couple years for a lot of services online. It seems to be long term users that most often get milked
Yeah, but that just makes me feel like I’ve thrown away my money for nothing, like the platform didn’t get any better, it got worse… one of the many reasons why I pirate as well.
That’s a weird way to put it, and I am one who sails the high seas.
If your power company gets shittier, and you switch to a different one, will you be thinking “oh those years I’ve thrown away my money when the service was good”?
You don’t pay hoping that the service gets better. You pay for the quality of service that you want now.
I agree, you have a point there.
Maybe I’m just hoping that things should improve if you spend money on the service, not go worse. Maybe I just get dissapointed and regret ever paying for that service.
Got it. I understand your point now.
Suck cost fallacy. If you’re going to pay, switching is the best idea.
With that said, I’m going to pirate everything I can (and pay the person who ripped it instead) till I die
Well, to be honest, especially for warez, yes, it involves A LOT of knowledge. And that’s not easy to gain, there are no books on the subject and you can’t study RCE (I haven’t seen any courses that dive into the subject), so yeah, it’s pretty hard to actually gain some knowledge, and even harder since most of the tricks of the trade are shared between warez groups, and it’s hard to get into one.
So, yeah, I would throw money at that one or two people that actually did manage to crack a particular piece of software. Teams of engineers and programmers working on the software and a team of one or two guys managed to beat your copy protection… bravo 👏.
Of course. They deserve it more for their time than software engineers on a fixed salary anyway.
Plot twist: it’s the same software engineers who work to cracking their code. Perfect strategy to continued employment as well as earning money on the side from people like me. Of course, I appreciate their time nonetheless.
It’s a trade off. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of companies have figured out that making things more premium for fewer people means making the same amount of profit for less work
The way YouTube is handling it tho, is quite horrible
You mean the stuff that people uploaded to YouTube, which YouTube didn’t create for themselves, and has no right to build a wall around?
Jesus fucking Christ, did it take your only two neurons sparking from ear to ear to generate that thought?
Youtube has a cost by hosting the videos for you and a billion other users to view. If you can’t see how that costs a shitton of money, you might actually be an idiot.
There’s no wall, you’re free to email your favourite creators to ask if they can email you their videos
There is still a wall around the content hosted on YouTube.
No I mean the bandwidth, engineering, hosting, support, moderation and community events
Services which were freely offered when creators added their content to YouTube, at no charge to YouTube, with no indication that there would be an attempt to charge an access fee.
YouTube encouraged the community to build a theme park while not paying even minimum wage to most of the builders, then decided to charge the community for admission to the park they built. This should be regarded as fraud and/or theft.
it was, and still is, a private platform. In the EU the new digital markets act now considers big players “gatekeepers” and actually does something about this behaviour
You’re an idiot.
Feel free to elaborate
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You’re telling me I should pay when it clearly says Premium at the top.
Are you paying for that? If so, ask the support chat that comes with the subscription
if not: oof
You forgot this:
https://youareanidiot.cc/
people make videos for people for free. youtube (almost) doesnt pay anything to their content creators in ad revenue. it’s parasitic to annoy the audience into paying with ads
Patreon, Nebula, floatplane, skillshare, etc. I follow a bunch of YouTubers on some of those
Weird that you call the literal and metaphorical “host” the parasite in this.
If that’s your mindset then you are simply in the wrong place buddy!
I block all 3rd scripts and some first party scripts along with restricting capabilities of the domains I do allow with a combination of uBlock Origin and NoScript. I’m definitely not paying for a subpar experience compared to this
It pays to watch ad-free videos or else it gets the hose again.
I’m not really sure what you’re trying to communicate other than a so-so attempt at a Lambs reference, but I am paying. Hence the “Premium” at the top
Fuck guntube.
Sucks to be an iOS user. On Android you can install ReVenced and block all Ads and in video sponsors.
Additionally, you can install 3th party clients for YouTube Music (without ads and background play).
Don’t worry, iPhones will need to support sideloading by March 2024 in EU. Unfortunately, unlike with USB-C, this will most likely be limited to EU.
What is the difference in this new sideload thingy EU only compared with what we have today with tools like Altstore?
Probably they will add a way to sideload
APKsiPAs on device, without 3th party tools.They might increase the 3 apps limit too.
Oh yeah, that is an annoyance that needs to be fixed, totally forgot about it.
So, if you’re not in the EU… do continue worrying.
You han use yattee, pay for a developper account (20$/year) to sideload apps like uYou+ (modded yt with revanced feautures) or jailbreak your device to sideload apps freely.
Are you sure you want to use shady 3th party service like that? You wouldn’t want to break out of Apple’s eco system, wouldn’t you? 😂
Jailbreak? Jailbreak is dead since iOS 15 but ok 🤙 Nowadays, buying an iPhone to jailbreak afterward, doesn’t make much sense at this point. You pay so much to get stability and constancy, and jailbreaking takes both away.
As ex jailbreaker, I switched to Android for this reason.
Same here, was on an iPhone 8, jailbroken on ios 16.4.1 with no stability issues. Jailbreaking is dying, I switched to Android too.
iPhone 8 stills fine for jailbreaking, but newer devices have more security layers that need to be bypassed, therefore you will have stability problems.
Also now, jailbreaks are rootless, which I don’t know what really means (probably less tweaks functionality).
Im down with paying for YouTube. I use it a lot, and loath ads. I also don’t wanna get attached to another third party client just for it to be taken away. Especially one that is breaking TOS or otherwise not using an official API
They can’t keep raising the prices though. It’s already at a limit really.
Also, the “rewards” that message proffers are bullshit. Just like the rewards that Google One has.
It’s kind of insulting. Like I said, I’ll pay because the money ends up with creators. And many creators say it’s more that ads get them. But puffing up bullshit rewards? Fuck off.
If I can pay to remove ads I will. Next is ad blocking. If I can’t do that, I won’t use your service and pirate your shit.
You want the platform to have an option to remove in video ads?
I want to be able to pay to remove ads, yes. I won’t use a service that won’t let me remove ads.
That’s the seek/fast forward button though. Or did you want the platform to be super hostile to it’s creators by automatically removing any sponsor spots in the video?
Oh, I see what you mean. Sponsored ads. Nah, I either ignore those or skip through them. Somehow I don’t find them as frustrating.
Yeah, so far those are generally acceptable. If they ever get out of control tho… it’ll be on the creators accepting them. And then those creators will hopefully lose their audience.
If YouTube ever decides to allow for the locking of seeking in selected sections of the timeline, you’ll know we are on the darkest timeline.
Is there a r/FuckAlegriaArt-like community on the Fediverse?
![alegria art example](https://cdn.sanity.io/images/uk7b627p/production/8a688e51a3af8d194d678de08c59084ae36104b1-1600x590.png?w=200&q=80&auto=format)
Fuck this shit.
Use uyouplusextra with SideStore and Wireguard on demand.
Y’all speaking about NewPipe and ReVanced, but SmartTube Next, which was originally intended for Android on smart TV’s, works perfectly on phones too.
And aside of blocking ads and allowing you to log in, it has Sponsorblock integrated.
There’s a NewPipe fork that includes Sponsorblock and dislikes, just a heads up
https://github.com/gilbsgilbs/NewPipeSponsorBlock
Can I log in with my Google account too?
Nope, but that’s the point
You can import your subscriptions though
That’s why I don’t use NewPipe anymore. I have it as a backup, but I rarely open it.
I like to log in so that it affects my recommendations and history.
I see, that’s valid
NewPipe was built precisely with the purpose of avoiding that, so it goes directly against your use case.
But you don’t have the option to play in the background
Maybe true before but not now. They even have a pip function
Edit - talking about smartnext
That is interesting then
So much hate for having to pay 🤣
It’s not about paying, it’s about still getting these stupid featured pop-ups after paying.
I don’t see this 🤷♂️
Oh man, the absolute horror of being told about new features! The absolute abject tragedy!
It’s not just that, it’s also random content totally outside of your interest (I watch gaming and motorcycle content and it tries to feature some foreign holiday celebration videos lol) and worse, “products you may like.”
So being recommended videos is bad now? Dam
"Hold on honey, I’ll learn how to fix this pipe that’s burst, once I watch these 3 ads, complete this survey, redeem these rewards, finish this captcha and confirm my email.
Oh, this video isn’t available in Canada.
Even though it was made in Montana, literally a few miles from here."
I feel like everybody is overlooking the fact that this person is getting an ad, to watch ads, after already paying for Premium.
But it’s not an ad. It’s a prompt telling you that getting premium has more options than free YouTube.
That’s still an advertisement. It’s an advertisement for something you’re already using to encourage you to use more features of it so they can get analytic data from your usage patterns.
I mean, I like being told about new features rather than needing to discover them myself twenty months after they came into existence
Skill issue
When is an ad not a prompt?
I suspect that he is using YouTube ReVanced, which allows you to patch the YT app. One of the patches is replacing the branding with “Premium”. But you occasionally still get YT Premium ads - 0 normal ads, tho.
This might be the case
Thanks for letting me know this existed, I will be downloading it immediately. Edit: ReVanced isn’t available on IOS, I use Android but the guy who posted this is clearly using IOS.
If you don’t want to bother with the whole patching process you can also try Grayjay, it’s in early beta but it works flawlessly on my phone. Haven’t tried casting yet but it’s supposed to work, as opposed to Revanced.
Good point, I don’t really use iOS, so it didn’t cross my mind.
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Revanced usually hides the big central ‘+’ upload button by default. Unless OP explicitly re-enabled it, they are using the standard app.
You are correct, no big + in my app.
Came here looking for this comment…
All the creators I support have patreons to donate to and provide their videos on other platforms. Fuck YouTube anyway
Rewards? Oh yeah, less money in my pocket and price increases every few months? Sounds way more convenient than ublock and revanced. Rather pay with my money for an ad-free experience and line the pockets of a rich corporation. My time is too valuable to compile revanced once every few weeks!
I would totally pay for YouTube premium if they weren’t so good about making me watch my favorite gun-tubers on other platforms. Every channel has this endless and constantly changing list of words they can’t say for fear of being demonetized.
Fuck them indeed.
Break up the monopoly and I won’t need to block your ads because I’ll be able to go elsewhere.
Same. Was watching a video on nebula where they said a naughty word and I caught myself gasping but then remembered they are free to do so here.
I’d much rather donate to individual creators than such mega corporations