We should burn it down again. I want to march on Washington with Canadian flags, and American flags, and signs that say “Save America” if the US police/Military gun us down it might make the Americans wake up and eject their dictator. It’s an existential threat to humanity. We can’t afford to wait.
And into tech companies to track you everywhere you go, that’ll be the real tough part, how do you plan any action. Then the military and the heavily armed police forces know exactly who all was involved.
Still different. They are way more advanced than us. And we have way less grit than either of those groups. The viet were willing to live in spider filled holes in the ground. Afghanistan had been at war for years when the us went in so they were hardened already. I think if the current administration had been in power during either of those wars, both countries would have been crushed. The political winds in the us have shifted towards extremism. Trump could totally throw us in concentration camps right now and genocide the entire country and I’m thinking he would get away with it since there would be no backlash at home. Half the people down there would be able to do the mental backflips to justify it and the other half is broken and weak. I genuinely think that Trump can do whatever he wants at this time and get away with it. He’s already purged enough of the government of people with integrity that by now, he is untouchable. We are in danger beyond belief and nobody really seems to be alarmed enough.
Another difference is Canada has a long undefended border with the US and the citizens for both countries can look and sound the same. That guerrilla war wouldn’t stay in just Canada.
Come on man. 99% of us grew up in conditions that are soft and easy. I’ve seen extreme violence on a daily basis, but I can still be certain that whatever violence I’ve encountered would be puppy piss compared to what other people in the world go through. It’s led me to be soft. And unless you live in some enclave of extreme suffering somewhere in canada nobody knows about, you are probably just like me. Probably even softer seeing as you lack the self awareness that would allow you to be honest with yourself about what you are. I dunno, maybe you’re in the military or something?
I’m just now starting the process of getting a PAL. We’re going to buy a shotgun and some sort of rifle and a good scope. I don’t know anything about rifles and best calibers so that’s going to take some research.
You don’t have to worry too much about calibers, it’s basically splitting hairs. 12gauge for the shotgun, and for the rifle go with what can be found everywhere: 308, 30-06
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I assume most of those rounds are going to be about the same for the meat on the receiving end. I have to look at see what rounds are allowed at my local shooting range and pick from that.
Yeah they all (centre fire calibers) do the same thing when it comes down to it. Swedes hunt all their moose with a small 7mm round. Take a look at the ammo available in walmart, Canadian tire, the countryside gas station and choose one of those. Nothing fancy
The most effective weapon in Iraq was IEDs. I would never advocate anyone learning how to make one, but if you wanted to defend yourself from an American invasion this is how the Iraqi resistance did it
There’s already roughly ¼ of the Canadian population that has a registered firearm. That’s like. Nearly 10 million people. If half of them decided to actually go guerrilla, and a good portion of the rest of the population decided to run support. It could easily be an un-unfuckable situation for the US.
We should be courting a weapons deal with Ukraine months ago when all this started. We are each in the same boat right now. Working together would only help each individually.
A few years ago, I got my RPAL because I thought I was going to inherit my dad’s rifles. (Turned out that he gave them to my uncle a decade before he died, but oh well.)
The process was fascinating, because it made me realize just how different the gun laws in Canada are, and how much responsibility is drilled in from the start. It also made me realize that a lot of the recent gun reform bills are unjustified bullshit.
Anyway, I have the paper and knowledge, but no guns. Don’t particularly want them either, although it may become necessary very soon.
Me too. I don’t think guns are usually necessary but it seems like the US is swiftly moving towards violence against the exact demographics of people who are my friends.
We will try to help, we don’t want to see this for the American people either, it doesn’t do anybody any good, but there really isn’t much we can do, but we will try.
But Americans need to stand up against this, they are destroying your government systems piece by piece.
He barfs out these demented ramblings that get slurped up by corporate news sewers and now it’s in the headlines like it was ever anything more than a misfiring syphilitic group of neurons in front of a microphone.
Dear Canada. This isn’t us. This is the new asshole in power. Americans don’t hate you. We love you. And I can’t speak for every American, but I’d rather defect and fight WITH you than fight a war against you over this petty shit.
Actually, can I defect even if we don’t go to war? I’d just LOVE to not be here the next 4 years, but I’m pretty sure I’d stay after that too. You’ll have to teach me which Canadian hockey team I should root for. And if anything, we’ll fight a war to get the Expos back.
Cool story but that is what Americans chose, yes. It’s your representative. Americans might not hate Canadians, but Americans only love themselves and will eventually learn that this leads you to behave selfishly and be hated.
One American to another, we need to recognize that most of our country either voted for this or enabled it by not voting. Most if us either support this malicious behavior or are apathetic to it. Sure. If you take a poll, most Americans don’t want the us to mess with Canada. But if people won’t even vote, then how do you expect them to take up arms to save Canada?
To be fair, you have to consider the large number of Americans disenfranchised from voting, precisely because they were demographics who would have voted against this.
Voter suppression is a real and serious problem. I still think most people too beaten down and busy to get out to vote, even if disenfranchised, aren’t about to help out with a civil war or do much to help fix the current regime.
If anyone feels alienated, deal with it. I’m not saying this to make an enemy but neighbors will get no cookies or pats on the back for doing the absolute minimum, then coming here tell us “on behalf of half of us, I’m sorry” and that “this is not us”. Yes it is, face it and deal with it. Do more and to better.
Americans seem to be mostly waiting for an act or God to fix this mess, so with that in mind it helps to remind them that no you do in fact share responsibility for this, if only by association.
No. Good people let this happen on their watch. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and the people of the US were caught napping. You must take responsibility and act.
This is not the time to look for our forgiveness to make yourselves feel better. It is time to act. We will forgive later.
Isn’t it, though? Isn’t this how the USA has treated most countries smaller than it? Less wealthy than it? Less white than it?
Growing up outside of the US, this behaviour seems completely in line with how the country has always behaved on the international stage, just pointed at one of the “good” countries.
Trump is the average Murica, Fuck Yeah type that we meet online all of the time, and have for the past 30+ years. He’s the Yankee tourist that comes into our towns and expects us to accept their foreign currency, weather their patronizing questions, and cater to their idiosyncratic demands.
Trump doesn’t seem like a surprise to us. He seems like the natural outcome of a country that has tooted its own horn on the world stage for 80 years, that has glorified its military and its military might, that has waved the phrase “American Exceptionalism” at its own population without irony, and that long mythologized its history. Remember, fascism was popular in the US 90 years ago. The only problem y’all had with the Nazis was that they were German. I mean, if you use Ur-Fascism as a checklist, the USA checks off most of the boxes on a good year.
You might not be cognizant of that, but many of us living outside your borders very much are.
I don’t like what I see in the mirror most days, either. But I don’t get to deny the grey hairs and aging face. I sure as hell don’t go out in public shouting to the world “I’m not getting old; this greying, overweight man isn’t me!”
I’m in the process of emigrating to Canada. I recently spent 5 weeks there and already miss it. So much stuff just feels so much more human.
One of my favorite small details is that Canadian bills have scientific achievements on them. A spaceship arm, a research vessel, and the creator of insulin are all on them. We get fucking Illuminati symbols instead.
This may not be you specifically, but more than two-thirds of Americans directly or indirectly chose this clown as your president.
The fight you want to join? It’s already started. The people best positioned to stop this are being fired. The checks and balances are being removed or taken over.
Well, actually it’s one-quarter of us that chose this clown. See - funny story - the voting system is not compulsory and there’s kind of an equal measure of apathy and voter-disenfranchising that goes on whereby clowns make it harder for non-clowns to vote, and then a bunch of bizarro clowns claim voting is a scam or some shit, and then about a third of the population just . . doesn’t do it. For. some reason. (Sometimes valid reasons, but not usually.)
So we’re way ahead of you in hating those Americans who backed this traitorous demented rapist piece of shit, but it is only representative of us in that our fucked-up voting system makes it look like that.
Those who couldn’t be bothered to vote against Trump, or who were too ignorant to understand why they should, can’t be counted on for anything at all - and certainly not to help stop the USA from invading Canada.
Are you not supposed to have guns and have a bunch of people in the same situation to supposedly defend your people in case of government tyranny, instead of just letting this happen and apologize?
I like the energy but we need Americans to clean up their own yard while it’s still safe to do so.
Nut jobs think that they’re the majority because they are behaving boorishly in public and nobody is holding them to account. The quiet majority needs to organize and show them that undesirable actions have proportional and consistently negative consequences.
That could mean a lot of things. Big things like being a trans ally and showing up for demonstrations. Small things like not inviting your MAGA uncle to family occasions. But things they must be. The jackboots are winning because people are typing anger into a box then staying home to shop and watch Netflix reality TV.
The hat has determined that you will be a Flyers fan and go to every home game, but whenever the Penguins are in town you can’t stop yourself from 110% cheering for the Penguins and especially Crosby 😅
Good banter bud! You are now an honorary Canadian!
This too shall pass. Canadians and Americans have always been friends (1812 wasn’t Canadians, it was the British) and shall continue to be despite the efforts of one madman. For now we just need to weather this storm, and if it comes to it, we’ll fight with you. We always have our friends backs, and we know that you have ours.
The idea that any military attack on Canada is most likely to come from directly across the southern border is not a new one. It’s one of the main reasons we need an army at all. Many years ago I mentioned this theory to some people in the military and was slightly surprised that they all took it seriously and said yeah, we do have plans for that possibility of course. I don’t know to what extent they were serious about it then or whether they’ve all gone soft and forgotten about it in the decades that have since passed, but unlikely as we thought it that an invasion would come from the USA it’s even more unlikely that it’d come from anywhere else.
I had heard that there where plans; but I thought they were hypothetical plans drawn up in the early years of Canada, just in case we wanted to burn down the White House again.
Defence Scheme No. 1 was a war plan created by Canadian Director of Military Operations and Intelligence Lieutenant Colonel James “Buster” Sutherland Brown, for a Canadian pre-emptive attack against the United States in the (hypothetical) case of a conflict between the United States and the British Empire.
The headline says they want to change the borders, but I didn’t see any details in the article about redrawing the border. They say they’re interested in doing so, but there aren’t any details. They say that Trump wants control of the Keystone XL pipeline, but the details they give simply say that he wants it built. It’s like they shoved all the Canada-US relations stuff into one article, but didn’t bother editing it or making it coherent.
On another note, Trump himself is confused:
"We protect Canada, but it’s not fair. It’s not fair that they’re not paying their way, and if they had to pay their way they couldn’t exist,” he told reporters.
Uh, no, Canada has protected our northern border. If we’d had to protect that on our own, we’d be a much more closed, paranoid and militaristic place. [Isn’t that a scary thought!]
I don’t believe it’s most. If you add those who support Trump to those who are too indifferent to bother to vote against him, the people who will oppose him are in a minority. And even some of that minority is “don’t rock the boat” Democrats who will go along with the status quo, even as it lurches to the right. Others are scared and won’t do anything to help. Trump’s favorability rating bumps along at around 45-52% these days, and Americans have a strong tendency to rally behind the troops and the President even in needless and cruel wars, and they’re suckers for propaganda. So I don’t believe a majority are on Canada’s side in any meaningful way. Americans will fall in line, and Canada has to defend itself against this aggression.
I wouldn’t count on it. Americans want to seem strong but are really just weak babies. Most well just go along well saying I need my guns for government overreach well just allowing it to happen.
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This American Putin wanna be is going burn it all down isn’t he.
I like Americans (to a point), but FAFO, we burnt the Whitehouse down before.
We should burn it down again. I want to march on Washington with Canadian flags, and American flags, and signs that say “Save America” if the US police/Military gun us down it might make the Americans wake up and eject their dictator. It’s an existential threat to humanity. We can’t afford to wait.
Two different situations. That was before the us had sunk trillions of dollars into its military.
And into tech companies to track you everywhere you go, that’ll be the real tough part, how do you plan any action. Then the military and the heavily armed police forces know exactly who all was involved.
Palantir was literally started just for this.
They sank a lot of money into Vietnam and Afghanistan too.
Still different. They are way more advanced than us. And we have way less grit than either of those groups. The viet were willing to live in spider filled holes in the ground. Afghanistan had been at war for years when the us went in so they were hardened already. I think if the current administration had been in power during either of those wars, both countries would have been crushed. The political winds in the us have shifted towards extremism. Trump could totally throw us in concentration camps right now and genocide the entire country and I’m thinking he would get away with it since there would be no backlash at home. Half the people down there would be able to do the mental backflips to justify it and the other half is broken and weak. I genuinely think that Trump can do whatever he wants at this time and get away with it. He’s already purged enough of the government of people with integrity that by now, he is untouchable. We are in danger beyond belief and nobody really seems to be alarmed enough.
Another difference is Canada has a long undefended border with the US and the citizens for both countries can look and sound the same. That guerrilla war wouldn’t stay in just Canada.
I completely disagree
Trump only won a small portion of the American voting population our problem is people don’t vote, not that most of them support this.
I think if it ever actually came to those lengths Congress wouldn’t support it. Congress decides if we go to war, not Trump.
You speak for only for yourself. You may be soft, but not everyone is the same as you.
Come on man. 99% of us grew up in conditions that are soft and easy. I’ve seen extreme violence on a daily basis, but I can still be certain that whatever violence I’ve encountered would be puppy piss compared to what other people in the world go through. It’s led me to be soft. And unless you live in some enclave of extreme suffering somewhere in canada nobody knows about, you are probably just like me. Probably even softer seeing as you lack the self awareness that would allow you to be honest with yourself about what you are. I dunno, maybe you’re in the military or something?
Get me out of here :(
Gonna need you to do it again. It’s the only way to get the orange stank and Russian bugs out.
I’m actually thinking of buying a gun, which is crazy because I’ve been opposed to them my whole life.
I’m just now starting the process of getting a PAL. We’re going to buy a shotgun and some sort of rifle and a good scope. I don’t know anything about rifles and best calibers so that’s going to take some research.
You don’t have to worry too much about calibers, it’s basically splitting hairs. 12gauge for the shotgun, and for the rifle go with what can be found everywhere: 308, 30-06
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I assume most of those rounds are going to be about the same for the meat on the receiving end. I have to look at see what rounds are allowed at my local shooting range and pick from that.
Yeah they all (centre fire calibers) do the same thing when it comes down to it. Swedes hunt all their moose with a small 7mm round. Take a look at the ammo available in walmart, Canadian tire, the countryside gas station and choose one of those. Nothing fancy
The most effective weapon in Iraq was IEDs. I would never advocate anyone learning how to make one, but if you wanted to defend yourself from an American invasion this is how the Iraqi resistance did it
If I were the government, as a contingency plan I’d have a shipping container full of weapons in every census block in the country.
Sure, we’d lose the battle, but that would make holding Canada impossible.
There’s already roughly ¼ of the Canadian population that has a registered firearm. That’s like. Nearly 10 million people. If half of them decided to actually go guerrilla, and a good portion of the rest of the population decided to run support. It could easily be an un-unfuckable situation for the US.
Drone. Buy a drone and learn to use it well. Join a club. Learn how to navigate. Lots of us have guns. Multiple guns. You can have one of mine.
This. Maybe our government can make a deal with Ukraine and buy low cost drones?
We should be courting a weapons deal with Ukraine months ago when all this started. We are each in the same boat right now. Working together would only help each individually.
Trump became President and that’s when I decided to become a gun owner.
A few years ago, I got my RPAL because I thought I was going to inherit my dad’s rifles. (Turned out that he gave them to my uncle a decade before he died, but oh well.)
The process was fascinating, because it made me realize just how different the gun laws in Canada are, and how much responsibility is drilled in from the start. It also made me realize that a lot of the recent gun reform bills are unjustified bullshit.
Anyway, I have the paper and knowledge, but no guns. Don’t particularly want them either, although it may become necessary very soon.
I’m right there with you. Never thought it would happen, but here we are.
Me too. I don’t think guns are usually necessary but it seems like the US is swiftly moving towards violence against the exact demographics of people who are my friends.
Check your local hunters association, sometimes they will run PAL training for free/by donation
Same
Just make sure you catch the President in it this time.
World would have been a better place if Madison had gone out hot.
We need your help.
I think most Americans would actually let us, honestly.
We will try to help, we don’t want to see this for the American people either, it doesn’t do anybody any good, but there really isn’t much we can do, but we will try.
But Americans need to stand up against this, they are destroying your government systems piece by piece.
Oh lovely. More threats of war.
He barfs out these demented ramblings that get slurped up by corporate news sewers and now it’s in the headlines like it was ever anything more than a misfiring syphilitic group of neurons in front of a microphone.
1812
Who needs enemies with allies like this
Peter Navarro is a piece of shit
The dude just got out of jail a couple of months ago.
Dear Canada. This isn’t us. This is the new asshole in power. Americans don’t hate you. We love you. And I can’t speak for every American, but I’d rather defect and fight WITH you than fight a war against you over this petty shit.
Actually, can I defect even if we don’t go to war? I’d just LOVE to not be here the next 4 years, but I’m pretty sure I’d stay after that too. You’ll have to teach me which Canadian hockey team I should root for. And if anything, we’ll fight a war to get the Expos back.
Cool story but that is what Americans chose, yes. It’s your representative. Americans might not hate Canadians, but Americans only love themselves and will eventually learn that this leads you to behave selfishly and be hated.
Cool, let’s alienate the people who are also against this bullshit. I’m sure that will help.
One American to another, we need to recognize that most of our country either voted for this or enabled it by not voting. Most if us either support this malicious behavior or are apathetic to it. Sure. If you take a poll, most Americans don’t want the us to mess with Canada. But if people won’t even vote, then how do you expect them to take up arms to save Canada?
Also consider the amount of influence oligarchs created to get their president to power, divide everyone and put blame on each other.
To be fair, you have to consider the large number of Americans disenfranchised from voting, precisely because they were demographics who would have voted against this.
Voter suppression is a real and serious problem. I still think most people too beaten down and busy to get out to vote, even if disenfranchised, aren’t about to help out with a civil war or do much to help fix the current regime.
If anyone feels alienated, deal with it. I’m not saying this to make an enemy but neighbors will get no cookies or pats on the back for doing the absolute minimum, then coming here tell us “on behalf of half of us, I’m sorry” and that “this is not us”. Yes it is, face it and deal with it. Do more and to better.
Americans seem to be mostly waiting for an act or God to fix this mess, so with that in mind it helps to remind them that no you do in fact share responsibility for this, if only by association.
Adam Curtis calls is ‘oh-dearism’
No. Good people let this happen on their watch. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and the people of the US were caught napping. You must take responsibility and act.
This is not the time to look for our forgiveness to make yourselves feel better. It is time to act. We will forgive later.
Isn’t it, though? Isn’t this how the USA has treated most countries smaller than it? Less wealthy than it? Less white than it?
Growing up outside of the US, this behaviour seems completely in line with how the country has always behaved on the international stage, just pointed at one of the “good” countries.
Trump is the average Murica, Fuck Yeah type that we meet online all of the time, and have for the past 30+ years. He’s the Yankee tourist that comes into our towns and expects us to accept their foreign currency, weather their patronizing questions, and cater to their idiosyncratic demands.
Trump doesn’t seem like a surprise to us. He seems like the natural outcome of a country that has tooted its own horn on the world stage for 80 years, that has glorified its military and its military might, that has waved the phrase “American Exceptionalism” at its own population without irony, and that long mythologized its history. Remember, fascism was popular in the US 90 years ago. The only problem y’all had with the Nazis was that they were German. I mean, if you use Ur-Fascism as a checklist, the USA checks off most of the boxes on a good year.
You might not be cognizant of that, but many of us living outside your borders very much are.
I don’t like what I see in the mirror most days, either. But I don’t get to deny the grey hairs and aging face. I sure as hell don’t go out in public shouting to the world “I’m not getting old; this greying, overweight man isn’t me!”
I’m in the process of emigrating to Canada. I recently spent 5 weeks there and already miss it. So much stuff just feels so much more human.
One of my favorite small details is that Canadian bills have scientific achievements on them. A spaceship arm, a research vessel, and the creator of insulin are all on them. We get fucking Illuminati symbols instead.
Americans go to war with less powered countries over resources quite often, actually. This is absolutely you.
This may not be you specifically, but more than two-thirds of Americans directly or indirectly chose this clown as your president.
The fight you want to join? It’s already started. The people best positioned to stop this are being fired. The checks and balances are being removed or taken over.
Well, actually it’s one-quarter of us that chose this clown. See - funny story - the voting system is not compulsory and there’s kind of an equal measure of apathy and voter-disenfranchising that goes on whereby clowns make it harder for non-clowns to vote, and then a bunch of bizarro clowns claim voting is a scam or some shit, and then about a third of the population just . . doesn’t do it. For. some reason. (Sometimes valid reasons, but not usually.)
So we’re way ahead of you in hating those Americans who backed this traitorous demented rapist piece of shit, but it is only representative of us in that our fucked-up voting system makes it look like that.
That one quarter represents one half of Americans, whether they’re disenfranchised or not.
You can’t absolve yourselves of blame, just because of the ‘system’.
“Every
black personAmerican is responsible for all the actions of any otherblack personAmerican.”The Americans who did vote against Trump are not responsible for this cluster fuck, maybe blaming them for things they can’t control isn’t helpful…
No one’s blaming the people who voted against him, we’re blaming the people who didn’t.
Sure as fuck sounds like they are blaming OP, with no indication that OP didn’t vote against Trump.
does it?
Why wouldn’t it?
I think you’re supposed to support your thesis first.
‘Stop thinking’ is my thesis.
Those of you that didnt vote are also complicit.
Those who couldn’t be bothered to vote against Trump, or who were too ignorant to understand why they should, can’t be counted on for anything at all - and certainly not to help stop the USA from invading Canada.
Yep and that is exactly why 2/3 or you wanted this. The 1/3 that didn’t vote was like ok he seems fine.
Are you not supposed to have guns and have a bunch of people in the same situation to supposedly defend your people in case of government tyranny, instead of just letting this happen and apologize?
No it is you. You voted for this. And are frankly doing nothing to stop this guy.
Your country voted for him. There was the possibility to vote for another candidate or to help convince people to vote.
You didn’t do enough.
Glad we found the one American responsible for the 200 million Americans who didn’t vote against Trump.
If only this 1 guy did more then Trump never would have been elected!
I like the energy but we need Americans to clean up their own yard while it’s still safe to do so.
Nut jobs think that they’re the majority because they are behaving boorishly in public and nobody is holding them to account. The quiet majority needs to organize and show them that undesirable actions have proportional and consistently negative consequences.
That could mean a lot of things. Big things like being a trans ally and showing up for demonstrations. Small things like not inviting your MAGA uncle to family occasions. But things they must be. The jackboots are winning because people are typing anger into a box then staying home to shop and watch Netflix reality TV.
Dear Canada. Native Americans still hate you.
That’s fair.
Congratulations you are now an Oilers fan! Please do not resist
Can I negotiate? I’m more of a Maple Leafs person.
You’ll need this
You have been banned from the country and sentenced to be a bruins fan for life 😅
Heck, if I’m banned from Canada anyway, I’ll just go be a Flyers fan, lol !
Sorry, the sorting hat has now made you a Penguins fan.
Goddammit! Imma sic the spirit of Bobby Clarke on that hat!
The hat has determined that you will be a Flyers fan and go to every home game, but whenever the Penguins are in town you can’t stop yourself from 110% cheering for the Penguins and especially Crosby 😅
Good banter bud! You are now an honorary Canadian!
Ooof, glutton for punishment I see.
D’oh!
Fine. What time is first pitch?
. . . what.
This too shall pass. Canadians and Americans have always been friends (1812 wasn’t Canadians, it was the British) and shall continue to be despite the efforts of one madman. For now we just need to weather this storm, and if it comes to it, we’ll fight with you. We always have our friends backs, and we know that you have ours.
This isn’t accurate in the slightest. Fencible and Militia units were formed in New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, and the Canadas (upper and lower) from local civilians, who fought in a variety of battles throughout 1812. These civilians were in fact called “Canadians” at the time as well.
And that’s to say nothing of all of the Native peoples of Upper and Lower Canada who aided in the fight.
Ultimately the British held command, but many, many Canadians participated and were involved as well.
Obviously it’s the leafs and not the habs
You’ve been assigned the Leafs, as punishment.
That is literally an act of war if they do that.
MAGAs don’t care. They may actually hate us for our freedoms.
MAGAs can go suck a fuck.
And the political raping continues. They’re turning out to be that really bad neighbor no one wants, on steroids.
The idea that any military attack on Canada is most likely to come from directly across the southern border is not a new one. It’s one of the main reasons we need an army at all. Many years ago I mentioned this theory to some people in the military and was slightly surprised that they all took it seriously and said yeah, we do have plans for that possibility of course. I don’t know to what extent they were serious about it then or whether they’ve all gone soft and forgotten about it in the decades that have since passed, but unlikely as we thought it that an invasion would come from the USA it’s even more unlikely that it’d come from anywhere else.
We certainly had plans for it when I was an infantry officer in the nineties. I see no reason why those plans would not have been kept current.
Did anyone actually think the plans would be effective or was it more of a plan to go down kicking and screaming?
I was impressed. And I tend to be critical of most plans.
I had heard that there where plans; but I thought they were hypothetical plans drawn up in the early years of Canada, just in case we wanted to burn down the White House again.
Surprise sneak attack from Alaska! It’s over Canada we have the high ground.
You’ll be crossing a lot of very rough terrain before getting to anywhere useful. It’d be like attacking Russia through Siberia.
I was joking. But seriously do you think they would be in canoes and riding moose?
They? This is a Canadian forum
Yeah they It means “the Americans troops” or they made a this forum “the Canadian lemmy users”
The USA has had dreams of this forever.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red
Not to fear, we also made similar plans. (Should have done it when we had the chance)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1
I am confused by this article.
The headline says they want to change the borders, but I didn’t see any details in the article about redrawing the border. They say they’re interested in doing so, but there aren’t any details. They say that Trump wants control of the Keystone XL pipeline, but the details they give simply say that he wants it built. It’s like they shoved all the Canada-US relations stuff into one article, but didn’t bother editing it or making it coherent.
On another note, Trump himself is confused:
Uh, no, Canada has protected our northern border. If we’d had to protect that on our own, we’d be a much more closed, paranoid and militaristic place. [Isn’t that a scary thought!]
Don’t stress yourself out too much. It’s the Telegraph, whose journalistic standards are on par with the Toronto Sun.
Maybe they plan to redraw it to include some of the states in Canada.
It will be redrawn in canada’s favour.
@Shadow Step away from the crayons 🖍
When the war starts in earnest. Most of us are on yalls side.
I don’t believe it’s most. If you add those who support Trump to those who are too indifferent to bother to vote against him, the people who will oppose him are in a minority. And even some of that minority is “don’t rock the boat” Democrats who will go along with the status quo, even as it lurches to the right. Others are scared and won’t do anything to help. Trump’s favorability rating bumps along at around 45-52% these days, and Americans have a strong tendency to rally behind the troops and the President even in needless and cruel wars, and they’re suckers for propaganda. So I don’t believe a majority are on Canada’s side in any meaningful way. Americans will fall in line, and Canada has to defend itself against this aggression.
I don’t trust Americans to do anything decent now. It’s been so long since we had an example
Start fighting right now.
I wouldn’t count on it. Americans want to seem strong but are really just weak babies. Most well just go along well saying I need my guns for government overreach well just allowing it to happen.