Not to say I hate the genre, I actually love me some Dusk or Turbo Overkill, but why, oh why are they called Boomer Shooters?
These games clearly took inspiration from 90s FPS games, which 👌, but they were played mostly by Gen Xers and Millenials, not Boomers. When games like Duke Nukem 3D or Quake were out, Boomers were what? 30 to 50 years old? I’m sure some of them played FPS games, but there is no way they were the majority.
Whenever I see the term Boomer Shooter, my mind goes to games like Shootout! for Magnavox Odyssey. Can’t we call them something else, like Retro FPSes or something?
I feel like a lot of people haven’t ever played Rogue and so struggle understand what Roguelike actually means. Fair call, it’s a very old game with essentially no graphics, but to understand the genre properly everyone needs to give it a go at least once in my opinion.
Side note; love me the whole Mystery Dungeon franchise. I still need to pick up the Shiren the Wanderer series.
Major part of it is that some people differentiate hard between rogue-likes and lites, and others simply do not, and the two will never get along with each other. The thing being that if there are any type of permanent upgrade/unlock systems that makes the game easier the more you play, it is not like rogue, where instead of grinding for more max hp or dodge percentage, you “grind” knowledge and experience as a player.
Which means that there are very, very few actual roguelikes because upgrade systems are just so cool ™ and every game obviously needs one. Or three.
It’s not meant to be taken literally. Language evolves and boomer no longer exclusively refers to baby boomers, it’s just a general Gen-Z term for older people.
Which is hilarious, because Zoomers are turning 30 now and when I was actually young people over 30 were just one large group of walking corpses. I am curious to see how long Gen Z will keep this “we are the young ones” shtick up. Gen Alpha is where the actual young people are.
When games like Duke Nukem 3D or Quake were out, Boomers were what? 30 to 50 years old?
You mean, like most of us Millennial gamers are now (30+)? The youngest Millennials, born in 1996, will be 30 in 2 years.
These games clearly took inspiration from 90s FPS games, which 👌, but they were played mostly by Gen Xers and Millenials, not Boomers.
I’m a middle-Millennial (1988), and Doom was well before my time as a gamer. I was 5 years old in 1993. Halo (2001) was more my generation, just barely. The oldest Millennials in 1993 were 12 years old, which was not the target age group for Doom.
GenX? Sure, they played Doom, but Boomers were by far the larger age group playing “Mature” games at that time. Video games have never been just for children.
I mean it became a tag on steam it’s so common. “Retro-style FPS” doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as easily. Boomer = Baby Boomer generation (or close to it) where the engineers making the things; so while it’s not entirely accurate of the dev demographic of the day, “the things people who are now old used to make” is the meaning. Boomer is also like “boom” because there big loud guns, big loud sfx, ridiculous explosions, etc.
Why does this have to be a point of contention? No fun allowed? What is this, Nintendo?
As for why it might be a point of contention with many millennials.
My best guess is we’ve spent years being accused of doing things by boomers who didn’t know that Gen Z was a thing and now it feels like we are being lumped in with Boomers because Gen Z can’t be bothered to learn that more than one generation camr before them.
For Gen X it may just be that they constantly feel forgotten and want to be known.
Man, this is the first time I’ve heard that term. But then, I don’t play anything in this genre anymore, so maybe it’s just by virtue of the fact that I’m out of that space almost entirely.
There’s been a big revival of that genre over the last 10 years or so and I think Boomer Shooter was adopted as a way to differentiate it from your standard FPS. Turbo Overkill is very different from Borderlands which is very different from COD. You’ll need a way to communicate that difference if you want fans to buy your game.
An actual boomer shooter would be like Space Invaders.
But at least it’s got a name I suppose so if you like them you can find them and differentiate them from all your online XP bar tutorial modern bullshit.
I dunno, my rich uncle is a boomer and back in the 90s he was one of the only people I knew who could afford a gucci PC and every big box FPS game. So it kinda makes sense from that perspective.
Boomer doesn’t have to be literal boomers but old, like it is a joke in the WoW community to call it a boomer game because most of the people playing it (especially classic) are 30+ years old.
In the same way, people will talk about boomers in politics but Obama was the last baby boomer in the presidency.
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Ok Boomer.
Lol try being a Roguelike fan.
You correctly tell people that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a Roguelike and they look at you like you’ve grown a second head.
Sometimes this stuff happens, and there’s basically nothing you can do about it.
I hate how difficult it is to find games I like when it used to be so trivial.
2010: “I want to play another game like rogue”
“Ok try these 10 games which are all excellent, and then there’s these 50 which stretch the definition but rhyme with it if you like”
2020: “I want to play a game like rogue”
“Here’s a 3d looter shooter with multiplayer and 9 currencies for upgrades between short runs”
I feel like a lot of people haven’t ever played Rogue and so struggle understand what Roguelike actually means. Fair call, it’s a very old game with essentially no graphics, but to understand the genre properly everyone needs to give it a go at least once in my opinion.
Side note; love me the whole Mystery Dungeon franchise. I still need to pick up the Shiren the Wanderer series.
Major part of it is that some people differentiate hard between rogue-likes and lites, and others simply do not, and the two will never get along with each other. The thing being that if there are any type of permanent upgrade/unlock systems that makes the game easier the more you play, it is not like rogue, where instead of grinding for more max hp or dodge percentage, you “grind” knowledge and experience as a player.
Which means that there are very, very few actual roguelikes because upgrade systems are just so cool ™ and every game obviously needs one. Or three.
Does that make pixel dungeon an actual roguelike? Never played the original rogue.
I believe it is a roguelike, yeah. Probably my favorite one too.
It’s not meant to be taken literally. Language evolves and boomer no longer exclusively refers to baby boomers, it’s just a general Gen-Z term for older people.
I know, but just let me have my old man yells at cloud moment.
Ok boomer
sorry
No, you’re not. But I like you anyway.
Not a boomer, confirmed.
Which is hilarious, because Zoomers are turning 30 now and when I was actually young people over 30 were just one large group of walking corpses. I am curious to see how long Gen Z will keep this “we are the young ones” shtick up. Gen Alpha is where the actual young people are.
Depends on your definition of gen z, and the oldest of gen alpha has barely started getting into highschool. As a zoomer though we are on our way out.
But we’re not o… ah nevermind.
I’m a younger millennial.
I’m out of my 20s. My back hurts. You’re wrong :D
We may be young at heart (emotionally), but we are old at heart (physically)
“Whatevers” in GenX.
That’s OK, because older people use the term Gen-Z for idiots of all ages.
We were calling them Doom-likes before FPS became a thing, maybe it’s time to bring it back as a sub category.
Doom clones!
Not a bad idea, but like which DOOM?
I ask that sarcastically, but 90’s DOOM, 00’s DOOM, and 10-20s DOOM all play very differently lol
Any of them would be more accurate than Boomer shooter.
Appending “-like” to any genre is so unoriginal and uninteresting.
It isn’t intended to be interesting
That’s abundantly clear.
The burn you think you are deploying, to a casual categorical label and those who use it, is not very effective.
It’s an observation, not a “burn”.
If you observed it to be abundantly clear you wouldn’t have made your original comment.
Speak for yourself. I comment on obvious things all the time.
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You mean, like most of us Millennial gamers are now (30+)? The youngest Millennials, born in 1996, will be 30 in 2 years.
I’m a middle-Millennial (1988), and Doom was well before my time as a gamer. I was 5 years old in 1993. Halo (2001) was more my generation, just barely. The oldest Millennials in 1993 were 12 years old, which was not the target age group for Doom.
GenX? Sure, they played Doom, but Boomers were by far the larger age group playing “Mature” games at that time. Video games have never been just for children.
I just think of it like boom as in explosions. Boom-boom shooty-shoot; or boomer shooter if you prefer brevity.
Who says boomer shooter?
I mean it became a tag on steam it’s so common. “Retro-style FPS” doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as easily. Boomer = Baby Boomer generation (or close to it) where the engineers making the things; so while it’s not entirely accurate of the dev demographic of the day, “the things people who are now old used to make” is the meaning. Boomer is also like “boom” because there big loud guns, big loud sfx, ridiculous explosions, etc.
Why does this have to be a point of contention? No fun allowed? What is this, Nintendo?
As for why it might be a point of contention with many millennials.
My best guess is we’ve spent years being accused of doing things by boomers who didn’t know that Gen Z was a thing and now it feels like we are being lumped in with Boomers because Gen Z can’t be bothered to learn that more than one generation camr before them.
For Gen X it may just be that they constantly feel forgotten and want to be known.
It feels like everybody, here are just a few examples. And if that doesn’t cut it for you, Steam has a whole-ass tag for boomer shooters.
Man, this is the first time I’ve heard that term. But then, I don’t play anything in this genre anymore, so maybe it’s just by virtue of the fact that I’m out of that space almost entirely.
There’s been a big revival of that genre over the last 10 years or so and I think Boomer Shooter was adopted as a way to differentiate it from your standard FPS. Turbo Overkill is very different from Borderlands which is very different from COD. You’ll need a way to communicate that difference if you want fans to buy your game.
That’s cool. Always neat to see things come back but with the modern understanding of game theory.
I love the term. For me it’s not just a shooter in an older style but also a shooter that goes BOOM. Much better than boring cover shooters.
Oh, they’re definitely better, no question. But by that definition, wouldn’t that make them Boom Shooters?
Na, because the newer shooters still go boom. But boomer shooters are just boomer. And everybody’s waiting for the coming of the boomest shooter.
I would love to see that take place, so sign me up for the Church of the Boomest Shooter. My only real concern is where do we go from boomest?
Boomestest, obviously.
Helldivers 2 wins. You get to drop orbital strikes, launch ICBM nukes, call in cluster munitions, etc.
Meh, I’ve been able to do all of those in modded Minecraft for years.
That’s the neat part, we don’t. Can’t have the messiah coming for real. Otherwise you get splinter religions.
Now I feel like playing Messiah.
We’ve already seen the boomest shooter. Our savior hath already come and gone and left us behind to witness his passing. His name was Ultrakill.
I kind of enjoy this take lol
An actual boomer shooter would be like Space Invaders.
But at least it’s got a name I suppose so if you like them you can find them and differentiate them from all your online XP bar tutorial modern bullshit.
Boomer basically means 20+ years old nowadays as far as I can tell. Or older than zoomers.
I dunno, my rich uncle is a boomer and back in the 90s he was one of the only people I knew who could afford a gucci PC and every big box FPS game. So it kinda makes sense from that perspective.
It’s marketing doublespeak dreamed up by the totally deranged and it works
You have to remember its millennials and Gen Z experiencing this genre, not boomers.
Boomer doesn’t have to be literal boomers but old, like it is a joke in the WoW community to call it a boomer game because most of the people playing it (especially classic) are 30+ years old.
In the same way, people will talk about boomers in politics but Obama was the last baby boomer in the presidency.
I always assumed that the Boom in Boomer Shooter was more “Gun go Boom”, which seemed to fit the genre quite well.
Oldskool FPS. There. That’s the correct term. Now, who’s up for some DM-Morpheus with instagib mutator?🤘
…and volatile ammo. I’m in.